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Now that we are into the new NFL 2004-2005 pre-season, I've started another thread: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=207939 So please go there for more NFL discussion.

The Tuna is going to have to dust off some "Statue of Liberty" plays for Vinnie.

More scuttlebutt: the drug test was administered by the Cowboys, and that might impact the union's involvement into this matter of the drug testing policy of the league. Anyhow, it seems like Jones and the Tuna didn't want Carter around anyway (hence the quick Drew Hinson signing), and Carter...

Of course, the Atlanta sports radioheads wants Quincy to come to the Falcons and back up Michael Vick. Hmm...

The radio just reported that the Cowboys might have just released Quincy Carter. Quincy had not showed up for the last 2 practices. A press conference is forthcoming 11:30 PDT. Hmm...interesting...

Eli Manning "purchased" #10 from the NY Giants punter. :D

Ben Watson tested well in the smarts area on the tests given to the prospective picks (Ben went to Duke initially, then transferred to Georgia), so apparently NE's Belichik and company liked Ben's smarts over another suitable TE pick.

Jeff Garcia was put waivers after refusing the 49ers final offer (a paycut from $9 million base salary to $5, and only offered $1.5 million in incentives, while Garcia wanted to make up the $4 million difference in incentives). Garcia's cap number would have gone above $12 million due to an...

Peyton Manning just hit the motherlode. He signs a 7 year, $99.2 million contract with a $34.5 million signing bonus! There's 2 more years on the contract (which can be voided if Manning just reaches minimum playing time standards), and the contract has $19 million more in incentives.

Sleep in late.

Here's a link to the TO story. Major Doh! moment for the agent.

The physicality of pro football will be a big deterent in having a flood of 18 year olds entering the NFL draft. It's one thing to go play college football, but it's another to have huge grown men being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and millions of dollars to knock the crap out of you on...

As Al Davis once said: "Just win, baby." Re: high schoolers in the NFL draft: I think we'll see a couple of years of washouts, which will make general managers wary of picking "projects" or high school prospects, so even if high schoolers can petition to be included in the draft, 99% will...

BTW, Bill Belichek is on Dave Letterman (currently just starting on the east coast).

That comparison is premature. What were Montana's stats when he was 26 years old in the NFL? Let's just see what numbers Brady puts up in the next 10 years, and then compare them to the other great QBs.

I must have confused which team from the Super Bowl the radio guys were speaking of when they were discussing cap room and draft picks this afternoon.

Is it true that the Pats are $12 million under the salary cap going into the 2004-2005 season?

I blame Vinatieri's 1st half kicking woes on wearing the wrong length cleats. He switched to a longer cleated shoe in the 2nd half and had more success. That field was in atrocious shape for a Super Bowl, far too many receivers were slipping on their cuts.

How many passes did Bob Griese throw in 2 Super Bowl wins? I think it's under 20 combined (11 attempts in one, and 7 in the other). But he's still well thought of for being the QB of 2 winning Super Bowls. You can only beat the team that is on the opposing sidelines, and you can only play...

Now if Tom Brady said "How about that nipple shield on Janet?" in the huddle on the final drive, I'd bust out laughing myself.

The Super Bowl has a way of making players wilt under the pressure of the biggest game of a player's life, and Tom Brady has shown in 2 Super Bowls that he's been up to the challenge and drove his team down the field for the winning scores WHEN IT COUNTED THE MOST. There have been other QBs...

Well, you missed a great final 35 minutes of the game in Super Bowl history.

This was one of those games you didn't want to see either team lose.

Hey, more Bonnie Bernstein! When will we get through with the postgame and cue up Survivor!

It's a good thing Vinatieri changed to longer cleats in the second half.

Kasay's boneheaded kick out of bounds definitely didn't help the cause. Then again, Vinatieri's 2 missed FGs earlier also didn't help things. It was a very entertaining final 35 minutes.

Congrats to the Pats (too bad they didn't cover the spread).

Wow! Vinatieri did it again!

This is going to come down to Vinatieri again.