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If he really was involved that much then it seems he wanted to go in a very different direction than what Mr. Willis would have chosen. Maybe we will see another release in the future that goes in another direction, until then we still have the Blu-ray boxset.

I am pretty sure that Mr. Coppola is not intimately familiar with the digital tools that would have to be used to arrive at a certain look for these movies and how to use them. So the chance that he has a certain look in mind and that gets delivered at the press of a button is not realistic...

Very true. For people who find it too hard to resist answering or even reading those posts the ignore function is extremely helpful. I had never used it on HTF before today but was happy to see that it is still there and working as expected.

Not sure if this is for real or meant to get a reaction out of other forum members... In any case my reaction was to (re)discover the ignore function.

I had reservations writing this but after somebody else mentioned to me in private that you seem to like this release and that you "should know" I feel that I have to: You mention that you have grave concerns that these have been well reviewed therefore leading to an acceptance of certain...

Of course all movies are ultimately products for their respective studios but it seems that when they are treated as works of art the best releases get made.

This is extremely depressing. When I first saw the Robe and its fake grain I was very much worried that these things would happen. You and others have hinted at the ignorance or should I say special taste of one or two people in important positions at Paramount for years and it is sad to see...

Sounds like they were a bit overzealous with the "reinterpretation" and grain reduction. I truly find it shocking that this is not happening to some 2nd or 3rd tier movie but to The Godfather trilogy and all of that with the OK of the director. Now he may not be that much of a technical guy but...

If the director is happy with it one has to accept that he did not care for the intended look anymore. Luckily I still have my Blu-ray boxset and if I ever get the UHDs I will try to match their color timing to more closely match the Blu-rays.

I used to see it as more of an issue of dark vs bright and not so much of chroma vs luma but indeed this has crept up on me and one wonders when it will stop. They used to be able to keep it in there within the limits of the format...

If only somebody who worked on the UHD set had watched it...

You could join the diplomatic corps! So the bottom line is that if one wants to watch the movies as intended then the Blu-rays are the better option. My personal opinion is that nobody complained about the previous look so changing it sounds like a solution to a non-existent problem.

Thanks for the clarification, this puts things in perspective.

Well it may not be The French Connection but it leaves me wondering what Gordon Willis would have said if he was shown the two versions side by side.

I have done the same here on an LG OLED and two projectors from JVC and Sony. All have been properly calibrated and I find the difference to be substantial especially when compared to the HDR / SDR versions of the other movies I mentioned and linked to. In any case we can now wait for the disc...

Neither do the caps - until you see them next to the Blu-ray caps. Did you compare the color timing of the UHD to the previous Blu-ray?

Even if a monitor was slightly off it would still show a difference but then I have been watching these on a D65 calibrated monitor with a bit less than DCI P3 color gamut, same as most HT projectors. As for differences being due to different formats (HDR / SDR etc.) why do these caps from LOA...

caps are up on caps-a-holic: https://caps-a-holic.com/c_list.php?c=6381 More high frequency and highlight detail and the color timing is more cold / bluish. Not a subtle difference from what it looks like and people can look comparatively pale due to that, like for example here...