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  1. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Jack: great point on Kevin Smith. Why anyone continues to even debate that stupid argument is beyond me...
  2. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    SPOILERS Excellent review John. One of the other issues is that Superman returning to the White House and putting the dome and flag back was one of the more patriotic and moving moments in II -- but because of the new ending, it's GONE since it doesn't happen. Of course, at the same time...
  3. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Well, you and I may think that, but most of the fans who cried out for this release over the years -- the group that became convinced Lester brought nothing to the table and Donner was solely and purely responsible for anything good about these films -- likely feel otherwise. That's why I...
  4. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    What?!? Richard Donner actually made some errors in judgment in his version of II?!?! Lester's film is more satisfying?!?! How could that possibly be?!?!? Some fanboys will not be able to sleep tonight. :) Seriously that is an excellent review, good points raised from someone who clearly knows...
  5. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I hated Ottman's treatment of Williams' themes and thought the new material he added was just insipid -- too loud, too bombastic, too much chorus, just...too much. His "arrangement" of "Can You Read My Mind" begs the question what sort of musical...
  6. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    I had the same reaction from watching the clips. There's one moment in the scene where Lois jumps out the window where it's so painfully obvious that someone is dubbing Reeve's dialogue. Thus, I'm not expecting a true work of art here. This is a fascinating "alternate version" for fans but...
  7. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    That's assuming there IS a sequel...Singer talking about it and WB going ahead and doing it are two entirely different things. The DVD returns may dictate the future of the franchise.
  8. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Huh? So then this cut isn't entirely what Richard Donner might have produced in 1980? Wasn't that the whole point? IMO any tampering or editing of footage in such a way so that it "connects" with SUPERMAN RETURNS pretty much negates the validity of this cut in the first place.
  9. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Lovers of Donner and Reeve knew what Singer was cooking up and appreciated every last morsel. Nope, not here. I love Donner and Reeve and hated SUPERMAN RETURNS with a a passion. A miscalculation and misjudgment of its source material of epic proportions.
  10. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Could be, but I know from having read the script it certainly seemed like a 2.5 hour kind of film. This would make it the shortest of the three...I'm just surprised, that's all. From having seen a myriad of TV versions (with some excellent unused scenes), it definitely means there will be plenty...
  11. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    The running time is more than curious. So does that mean they only worked with what Donner had shot -- and didn't use ANY other footage? If that's the case, that's a major problem, because I have a hard time believing the actual script would have clocked in at under two hours (the long TV...
  12. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    DP
  13. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Yuck. The SUPERGIRL cover art is horrible -- and the extras are only the trailer and the old Anchor Bay commentary? Looks like there's no need to upgrade there at all.
  14. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    He's entitled to his opinion, as you are as well. FWIW I hated SUPERMAN RETURNS -- years from now this movie will go down as a colossal misfire, with a misguided premise and lack of humor that were totally wrong for the franchise and character. Spacey wasn't amusing or villainous, Kate Bosworth...
  15. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Thanks for the clips! Call me sacreligious to the Donner fans but that scene with Lois jumping out the window is way over the top. At least in that instance I can see why it was re-shot -- the Lester version isn't nearly as "comical" by comparison and I'm guessing it likely plays more...
  16. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    I agree that the relatively disappointing performance of SUPERMAN RETURNS almost certainly is the reason why the 14-disc proposed set has, apparently, been scaled back. However, I would love to see the firm specs on this via a domestic press release. I just don't get why we don't have an...
  17. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Sounds as if you've got the Anchor Bay 2-DVD set you won't need this Supergirl re-release. If that PR release is correct the DVD commentary is the very same one from the Anchor Bay release!
  18. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    You could look at the Lester Superman II ending this way, which may have been Lester's intentions to begin with. The kiss Clark gave Lois perhaps didn't wipe out her entire memory of the past week's events, it just wiped out the memories linking Clark to Superman's identity. So, she could think...
  19. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Bob, I don't think the Lester cut is being "written out of the show", it will always exist. I also love it, but I am very happy that we will finally be seeing what a full Donner version would have looked like. Forgive my rant, but it's NOT a "full Donner version" -- it can't possibly be. Why...
  20. Mike_Richardson

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    I'm starting to get a bit apprehensive about this project, should it come to pass, based on what people are saying they'd "like to see" in it. I totally agree with seeing Donner's cut scenes and having restored sequences (if possible) put back in, but having Donner do a "Director's Cut" of a...
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