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yes, i think we're all on the same page here. perhaps the store's manager should read this thread too. it's an unfortunate reality that we sometimes have to endure uninformed, bullyish salespeople so we can hear a piece of gear. luckily, we can walk out the door and buy it somewhere else.

the response was based partially on your comments and partially on the OP's responses... he was listening to you. without checking every statement you made, i'm not going to say you were definitely incorrect in any statements of fact. but listing watts for speakers is a signal that something...

if you don't have a chisel, a flathead screwdriver works pretty well. :P

klipsch subs are crap IMO. they sound about as good as taking $300 worth of change and dropping it from your roof onto a big plywood box - plenty of thump, zero sound quality. klipsch speakers are not crap. they do have a specific sound, that you either like or don't. go listen to them...

i can't say how the speakers themselves will stand up, but it seems a pretty safe bet that the svs sub will win hands down.