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I mean yeah, they probably look a lot better than the previous transfers but only because said transfers were THAT bad. Otherwise don't expect Imax.

Sounds like a lot of the issues hounding IV since its DVD transfer were film level.

2009 had a small profit of 10m. ID either barely broke even or had a small loss, its not exactly clear. Beyond...lost 119 million dollars. There is no way you can spin that, it is the 2nd biggest flop in franchise history, only Nemesis did worse.

You can lay the blame for that at the feet of the Viacom breakup. Both CBS and Paramount had their hands on the franchise and there was little to no synergy between the two factions to keep product fresh. In the 10 years since we've gone from Trek being a disaster because nobody at Paramount...

This. Three years of mockery over JJ's lens flare obsession and Fast & Furious 6 took a shovel to Into Darkness's domestic box office.

Well Into Darkness did preform below expectations and Beyond just flat out flopped, which is why the film franchise is currently in limbo again...

IV: 80.5m II: 67m III: 47m FC: 33.5M GEN: 30.5M VI: 29.3M TMP: Between 7m to 19m. Accounts vary. ST 2009: 10.7M I2D: 4.9M to -7.6m V: -19.5M INS: -57.2M BYD: -119M NEM: -122.7M IV made a bundle because it had crazy legs. II because it was made for peanuts. But when half the franchise outright...

IIRC TMP only had a net profit of 7 Mil after leftover production costs from the aborted Phase II development were subtracted. By comparison Star Trek IV yeilded EIGHTY despite taking in 6 less in total cume.

I seem to recall "Dr. Who and The Daleks" was made about a year and a half into the 26 year original run of Doctor Who, with little involvement from anyone who worked on the original series, and wasn't considered all that great even back then. Of course it doesn't help that it was a severely...

Trekkies were always more into the Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic than shots of the Enterprise. Guess what there isn't much of in TMP?

They aren't but thanks for playing.

Khan may have been shot nearly entirely on soundstages (and TBF the Star Trek crew wasn't allowed to "go outside" until Star Trek IV!) but at least the film spent 20 minutes in Regula One and the Genesis Cave instead of the Enterprise.

Even if it is preaching to the choir, I might as well post Charles Sonnenburg's opinion here on the subject.

The irony is the film that cost less than a 1/3 as much as this one did had 50x as many 70mm prints struck.

in70mm.com (which I am NOT a fan of due to it heavily relying on one highly inaccurate book for most of its records) says Toronto and Ottawa in 1981 before playing a few engagements in Cleveland and San Diego. Never made it to Montreal. Presumably it was the same print being bicycled around...

Remember this film was advertised with nothing but effects shots. Because that was literally the whole movie.

...you guys know ST:TMP never got a 70mm release* right? *outside of a single print that only played in Canada and three random cities two years after the film came out.

It IS the album take right? With the piano played a half a step slower? (*hasn't watched the Director's Cut in several years, but does know its the full thing as opposed to the 90 second edit on the theatrical)

There is an overture to the theatrical cut but its actually half as long. Apparently the DC goofed and used the album take of Iliya's theme instead of what Goldsmith wrote originally*. *or maybe Jerry demanded it, that's why the DE uses the album take of the main title apparently.

A film is as only as good as its script. Star Trek: The Motion Picture had a script that was good enough for a TV Pilot, which is what it was. As a feature length motion picture, its an empty mess of monotonous visual effects shots because there just wasn't enough of a structure to make a good...

VI II IV III I My spleen being eaten V

Yeah TWOK's scan is as good as it gets for that film. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they just reused the 2016 blu-ray as the 2nd disc.

The theatrical of TMP is (and I say this unironically) a glorrified workprint. The opening credits are temp. The sound mix is a scratch track that left out most of what they were planning to use (said effects were remastered for the 2001 version). And that editing, oh god, the editing. Its just...

The TWOK DC has existed in 4k for five years. If Paramount didn't include it, that would just be petty of them.

Nice to see Bob Peak's art back.

Then they screwed that up. Nobody wants the theatrical cut of I and VI is one of the most popular films in the franchise.

I'd rather axe TMP and make it II, III, IV, and VI since that's the only story arc in the OG Trek franchise.