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I can see that I was imprecise in using the term ‘generation’, Seth. “Generation’ is commonly taken to mean (I’m doing this without a dictionary) the time that it takes to replace the fathers (and their brothers and sisters), with their sons (and daughters and nieces and nephews). Therefore...

I can see that I was imprecise in using the term ‘generation’, Seth. “Generation’ is commonly taken to mean (I’m doing this without a dictionary) the time that it takes to replace the fathers (and their brothers and sisters), with their sons (and daughters and nieces and nephews). Therefore...

I probably share your opinion on Man with a Movie Camera (I like this better than you—but still I’d put it in the ‘important for historical reasons’ category) and Stagecoach, which I’m willing to grant ‘Classic Western’ status, but that is about all (and I know all about how much of this stands...

Exactly. My rambling was really an agreement with George as to many of the films on the expanded list being the beloved film of a single (perhaps misguided) individual. The top 100 is overall pretty sound, though I expect that no one would vote for them all. After all it takes a reasonably...

I recognize that you did not have time (based on your post’s time stamp) to read the posted list, but very clearly the notion you present does not match the list I posted. None of this should be taken to be a defense of the S&S list—this is only to address the ‘lazy thinking’ that puts people...

An interesting point George, but I think valid if and only if one considers the S&S list of 340 films as their list. For me, this (the bottom two-thirds) is where the idiosyncratic films beloved by one or two voters (and for some of these, Jim’s appellation may in fact be accurate) are included...

Now this is an interesting thought and has some appeal—especially to those of us who are not a part of SSOFS (Secret Society of Film Snobs and pronounced 'so fus') and therefore have no vote as to ‘classic’ status. But I think that rejection (or at least not acceptance) of the population as a...

Your post brings up some interesting thoughts (as always) George. Films, just like almost any art form, do fall in and out of favor—your comment as to the length of time necessary to truly be ‘classic’, citing Shakespeare is a point well made. The problem with movies is that there is no...

:laugh: Next is Romantic movies, I suppose.

Just to go back and forth a bit, Holadem, I think that the terms ‘influential’ and ‘classic’ are not the same. Certainly not all films that we consider ‘classics’ are influential and there are many instances of indluential films that most certainly are not classics—at least in a ‘classic’...

I’ll start with setting forth one criteria that I am sure will be in dispute; but there is no such thing as an instant classic. I would think at the least, a classic ought to be 25 years old. No one can no know with certainty how another generation of moviegoers and critics will view any...