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I want to thank you all for your reponses. I'm not out picking up guys anymore so my question was more for informative purposes, really. I think in my early dating days didn't understand the body language problem so I probably really did give the impression that I was interested. These days...

So I was thinking about this thread on my drive home from work yesterday. . . My approach may not be the best one out there, either. I've been told more than once that guys have felt "led on" by me. While it certainly was not intention, I suppose I could see how a guy may think that. I mean...

Mike, I'm definitely not the normal woman, that's for sure. After all, I hang out at HTF. ;) And you're right, I'm probably a lot more patient than most women. I guess that's because I look at most situations, at the very least, as an opportunity for friendship. Hey, I know that the guy...

Nah, I got the point. Go back and read my first post. I addressed exactly this: go up to a girl and strike up a small-talk conversation. It's that the conversation started diverting and stopped being just about Neil but about finding people in general.

Well, I'll put it this way: I'm not a fan of BO or a foul mouth either and I probably wouldn't pursue such a guy on my own, but I'd be willing to hang around and chat with one of these guys. When a guy is so full of himself, it's like he thinks he can do no wrong. So there's no way to even get...

Well certainly some girls DO require that extra effort to be made. But I really don't think it's as large a percentage as a lot of males seem to think. If it suits your personality, then by all means. There's nothing wrong with going the extra mile. But that's not to say that you'll live a...

The thing is, everybody has some appeal. You just live with yourself so you may not consider yourself appealing at all, but there are very few people on this earth who have absolutely zero redeeming qualities. And that's where the whole "be yourself" thing comes into play. Women will pick up on...

The thing is Dustin, is that you really DON'T have to have something to start off with. It's a myth. Some girls may take the bait, but there are plenty of us non-shallow girls who don't care. I give every guy a chance. Honestly. I've been on a zillion first dates and almost as many second...

I would pick a man that has any of these characteristics than one that comes across as "cool" or "suave". I want a man with personality, not someone who's slicker than a used car salesman and spewing cheesy come-ons. It depends on what you want in a woman, I guess. I want someone who can have...

What age group are we talking? I'm going to assume early 20's. EDIT-I see this has already been addressed. My advice still stands. Be yourself and just try to make small-talk. I'd try to get a girl who is by herself since approaching a group of girls can be really tough. The girl may even...