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  1. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I appreciate your concern, Dave, but that wasn't my point. It's not a matter of budging an inch. I realize you have a strong opinion in this area and I've already said I respect that. Screencaps are sadly not reliable for grading picture quality, for a host of reasons that have been...
  2. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I don't think anybody is saying that the director is the only artist on a movie. What we were discussing is that in the case of the Star Wars movies, Lucas was not only the director but the producer and the writer who created it. Granted, he cribbed the material from many earlier sources. But...
  3. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave MJ, I have no way of evaluating screencaps - particularly when they are not in motion and in context. As I said, I recognize that you're not a fan of the Raiders Blu-ray and I respect your strongly held opinion in that area.
  4. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I agree that the extension of Vader's exit is strange and doesn't help the pacing (not to mention disrupting the music), but I hadn't heard anything from Kershner saying that he disliked the change. As for the change in Luke's line, it looks like they swapped ADR for that moment - the takes...
  5. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Alan, that wasn't the question. Can you please identify the scenes where Lucas switched out actual takes? And please identify the changes that Lucas made that were specifically disrespectful to Irvin Kershner? To Dave MJ, I realize you feel strongly about Raiders, but again, other people here...
  6. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave MJ, I do think we're mostly in agreement, but the Blu-ray of Raiders is the original version of the movie, as per Spielberg. Granted, you have different opinions about the color, but those are not necessarily agreed upon. And I have no issue with a digital correction that isn't announcing...
  7. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave MJ, I'm sorry, but you are making assumptions here that don't hold with what we know about Raiders. You're also making assumptions about my statements. First, we know that Spielberg approves any and all home video versions of his movies. He did not just see the 30th Anniversary showing...
  8. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I strongly doubt that someone pressured Spielberg to do anything he didn't want to do, or that George Lucas would have influenced him to change Raiders. Both have repeatedly said they are happy with the movie they and we have.
  9. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave, I totally hear your enthusiasm for this, but we're not talking about a situation where someone took Spielberg's movie and messed it up. He approved the transfer that's on the Blu-ray. He knows what went out and he's happy with it. I get it that you don't like the Blu-ray, and you don't...
  10. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave, the work for the Star Wars SE's was done at ILM. As I understand it, Dennis Muren was involved all the way, and he worked on all the original movies. As for the other craftsmen at ILM, they knew from the beginning that these were George Lucas' movies and it was up to him if he wished to...
  11. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Joel, RAH was not referring to the laserdisc transfers.
  12. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Matty, there is something to your first thought, about repeatedly releasing the same movie and expecting the fans to keep coughing up the dough. One version of it I've heard in the past about it has been "How many times can they get you to buy Goldfinger?" When we went through this in the...
  13. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I agree Dave. Please check my post 2358 and you'll see something interesting along those lines.
  14. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Mike, I don't doubt your enthusiasm for these movies, and I appreciate your posting. I have many questions for you, not necessarily divisive, if you have the time.
  15. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Carlo, I've edited my earlier post to correct your name. Apologies for the typo and thank you for pointing it out. I agree with part of your statements. If you enjoy the Harmy or Verta or (fill in name of fan editor) versions, that's your preference and I understand that. Not up to me to...
  16. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I agree with Joel in that basic description. Carlo, I'm a bit confused by your post. On the one hand, you admit these guys aren't trained restoration technicians, and then in the same post you say that their bootlegs are "technically superior" to what Lucasfilm has provided of the original...
  17. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Again, we need to keep in mind that there is a significant difference between the work done by professional film restoration technicians and interested fans. We can discuss whether some people enjoy the work done by the fans, but it’s simply not a tenable position to say that one thinks that...
  18. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    A further couple of quick observations: I don't know that George Lucas has refused to acknowledge the earlier versions of his movies. He acknowledges them, but he prefers his revised versions. To him, the revised versions reflect changes he'd long wanted to make, and they are his movies...
  19. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    BTW regarding Raiders, I have not seen issues with the accuracy of the color, but I have noted one issue at the very end of the movie, regarding that big closing shot of the matte painting of the warehouse. It's simply too hard-edged. You can practically see the signature of the artist. I...
  20. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave, I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing anything in Mike Verta's credits that would make him an expert on restoring Star Wars or any other movie. I don't discount his interest in these movies, and I applaud his enthusiasm. But we're not talking about a fan film. We're talking about someone making...
  21. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I'm really confused by that material about "Star Wars Legacy". Do I understand that a fan put himself into debt trying to do his own homegrown restoration attempt, doing 4K scans of different prints he could get his hands on? And that this fan is thinking he's going to be having a pitch...
  22. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    A couple of observations here. I appreciate that Bill Hunt enjoys watching fan restorations, but my concern over amateur work in this area stands. There's a reason why people like RAH are trusted to handle this kind of thing - they have decades of training and experience in this area. It's...
  23. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    We seem to revisit this topic with some regularity, which at least shows that people continue to be interested in seeing the theatrical cuts of these three movies eventually released on Blu-ray. I'd be happy to see that, but I realize that it's not something we'll see for some time. RAH of...
  24. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Offhand, I'd say that 1976's Rocky won Best Picture as a result of All The President's Men and Network splitting the vote. The same thing happened with Best Director that year - as both Alan J. Pakula and Sidney Lumet were up for those movies, and Avildsen was able to come up the middle (as did...
  25. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Dave, to answer both your questions: 1. Yes, it would be just as rude for Disney to ignore Lucas' explicit wishes for his existing movies as it was for Lucas to describe Disney as a bunch of "white slavers". There's a reason that Lucas quickly apologized, and while I understand the...
  26. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    There's a quote from the 1983 Al Pacino comedy that seems appropriate. It's I believe the first rule of business Tony Montana is taught by Frank Lopez. Hit, it's NOT "Don't get high on your own supply" - it's the other one. Fox won't be putting any money into future releases of these...
  27. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    My instincts say that Lucas didn't need to be prodded by Disney to make the apology. This wasn't really a matter of him doing anything that would prompt such a thing. It's more that he made a statement that was off the cuff and bitterly humorous to him at the moment, but he didn't think about...
  28. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    To me, it just sounds like he didn't think about it til he saw and read his own statements blown up afterward. He sounded more embarrassed than anything else.
  29. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    Lucas made a public apology today for the specific comments people have been singling out.
  30. Kevin EK

    Could the original, unaltered STAR WARS be on its way to Blu-ray?

    I agree that Disney will allow the fans to have HD copies of the original trilogy movies - in the manner that we've already talked about. And I don't think Lucas would really have a complaint about that - it would just be offering those movies as bonus features anyway. Lucas' disagreement...
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