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  1. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    The transfer should be the same as the previously released 4K from Arrow (which licensed it from Koch).
  2. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Latest update from Koch Films: Dear DUNE fan, In October we had all pre-orders up to and including 10.10.2021. If you ordered our DUNE Ultimate Edition, we promised that we would send the editions before Christmas. Now we have to tell you that we unfortunately cannot keep this promise. It is...
  3. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I'm not going to visit that forum. What is the alleged problem? My copy of the Arrow disc played fine on an OPPO 203.
  4. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    It looks like a cemetery headstone. Not sure what that has to do with this movie.
  5. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Announcement from Koch Films: Dear DUNE fan, maybe the news about our DUNE - Ultimate Edition has already reached you via our social media channels. We would be happy to provide you with the latest information here: The cover of the edition is final. DUNE will appear in a noble acrylic glass...
  6. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    This may not help you much, but the extras are playing fine for me on an OPPO 203. That said, I don't have a Dolby Vision display in the house. The player is connected to a 1080p TV and a projector with HDR10.
  7. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    OK, so, revisiting this point, I will acknowledge that there are some very strange color juxtapositions in the film, such as the view from inside Piter's cablecar, where one window is tinted green and the others blue. I think the intent was to reflect the lighting on the buildings outside, but...
  8. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I had a very strange experience watching the Dune disc again last night. I wanted to do a comparison with the old Universal Blu-ray. I watched about half an hour of that disc first before switching to the 4K disc. I then went to check the HDR settings in my projector and discovered that the...
  9. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I'm still waiting for Lark144 to elaborate on the alleged color continuity issues. I just watched the movie again the other night and still have no idea what he's talking about.
  10. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I didn't have a chance to do a direct comparison yet, but the HDR grade just seemed very flat and drab, with countless missed opportunities to emphasize highlights that would have been appropriate. When the Atreides first arrive on Arrakis and step out into the scorching desert sun beating down...
  11. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I watched the disc over the weekend. I did not see any green bias. Unfortunately, I also didn't see any sense that the film had actually been graded in HDR. Contrast is very flat on the whole, and colors not especially vibrant. I'm satisfied with the disc overall, but it doesn't look terribly...
  12. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I think it's more accurate to say that Lynch doesn't care what Universal (or anyone else) does with Dune. He washed his hands of the film long ago. At various points, Universal tried to recruit Lynch to participate in deluxe home video editions of the movie they had planned, but he consistently...
  13. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I have a friend who's fairly in-the-loop on details of this release. What he's hearing is that Ballyhoo needed extra time and couldn't complete the documentary to meet Arrow's schedule. Arrow elected to move forward as planned without the doc rather than wait. It's unclear at the moment whether...
  14. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    It's precisely because of his experience on Dune that Lynch has demanded right of Final Cut on every project he's done since. He won't make a movie without that guarantee. It's because of the failure of Dune that we have Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive. In some ways, that makes...
  15. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    The only reason Lynch was ever on Dino De Laurentiis' radar at all is that George Lucas had considered him for "Revenge of the Jedi," at the suggestion of Mel Brooks, who had produced The Elephant Man and was a big advocate for Lynch. Those talks didn't get very far, as Lynch didn't want to work...
  16. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I don't think that's exactly comparable. I mean, Get Carter was a fairly mainstream-accessible piece of entertainment, and he'd done one prior (though smaller scale) sci-fi film with The Terminal Man. I'm sure he probably seemed like a reasonable choice who could make a popular movie. Lynch...
  17. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Yeah, as it turns out, wearing contact lenses while filming in the desert with sand being blown into your face by powerful wind generator fans wasn't such a great idea. :)
  18. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Marvel has actually made some very offbeat choices to helm its superhero movies, but the studio keeps its directors on a very tight leash. I doubt there will be much of anything in The Eternals identifiable as "A Film by Chloe Zhao" other than the title credit. The thinking these days behind...
  19. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Paul's duel with Jamis was filmed and is in the TV cut. The rest of that storyline, which includes Paul taking responsibility for Jamis' widow Harrah and their two children, was scripted and cast, but most of those scenes never went before cameras because the production was over schedule and...
  20. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Yes, but all of that was decided early in production. There was no moment where Lynch delivered a 3-hour cut and said, "Here it is, Dino. Let's release this," and De Laurentiis said, "No, David, you must make it shorter." The 2.5-hour limit was imposed long before editing got that far. The suits...
  21. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I don't disagree with this. But it's the fact that Lynch was such a perversely ill-fitting choice that makes the film fascinating for me. Universal wanted the next Star Wars, but De Laurentiis hired the guy who did Eraserhead to make it. How does something like that happen? Lynch had only made...
  22. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    The rumored longer versions of the movie discussed on the second page of that article were debunked over the years: "I have also heard of a 140-minute version of the film (some movie guides like Leonard Maltin's excellent annual "Movie And Video Guide" have the theatrical version listed at 140...
  23. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Germany cranks out copies of Dune faster than I can keep up with them.
  24. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    The Region B Blu-rays are not based on Universal's master. They're all sourced from an older European video master that was first used for the French "Ultimate Edition" DVD release from Gaumont/Columbia Tri-Star Home Video in 2005 and then for the French Blu-ray from Opening in 2008. The master...
  25. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I don't deny that video compression is difficult to do well and that MacKenzie is good at his job. Nonetheless, there's a tendency in forum discussions like this to treat the guy like the Lord God of All Video Mastering ("Oh, David MacKenzie's working on this one? It's going to look gorgeous...
  26. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Lynch didn't have final cut (few directors do), but he did work on the film until the end and signed off on the theatrical release. That's no different than 99% of movies that get released. He did have to make compromises and changes to shorten the length, as he was under contract to deliver a...
  27. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Are you referring to the theatrical cut or the TV cut? The film was not taken away from Lynch during production. He was in charge the whole time and the theatrical cut is the only one he completed and approved. When he ran over schedule and budget, Lynch was ordered to stop filming certain...
  28. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    So, competence is better than incompetence? Yes, I think we can all agree with that. I have no qualm with Mackenzie or his work, but the fact that a compressionist would have a fan club is baffling to me. Good compression should be invisible to the viewer. As titch stated, Mackenzie's company...
  29. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mackenzie is just a compressionist, yes?
  30. JoshZ

    International Arrow Video Press Release: DUNE (1984) (4K UHD)

    I'll grant you that the original prints may have been poor. I only saw the movie on 35mm years after the fact, on a heavily-worn print. The years of dirt and scratches were significant enough to distract attention from any other picture quality attributes. But, as I said, the Universal Blu-ray...
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