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I have no idea what it would take to happen, but all of that needs to stop. It wasn’t right before the pandemic, and it’s certainly not right after it.

When all of this is over, I hope we as a society start to make some changes, and I big one I’d like to see is the end of worshipping perfect attendance and the faux bravery of working while contagious. I remember from when I was a young kid all through high school that they’d give an award for...

I think much of 2021 will be lost, and what’s worse, I think so many people have tied their expectations to everything awful being “2020” that when 2021 rolls around, more people than ever will just decide they’re “done” with it, and that’ll just lead to yet another resurgence and more social...

To point #2, the point of the cloth mask is more to prevent the wearer from spreading their own germs than it is to protect a wearer from receiving someone else’s germs. But that’s also why the recommendation is six feet and a mask, not either/or. And that’s why indoor activities are not great...

Some people say wearing a mask takes away your freedom. That’s actually not it at all. You not wearing a mask takes away my freedom. The Declaration of Independence famously promises that we are all entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you refuse to wear a mask, it...

This is all so horrifically depressing. My mask protects you; your mask protects me. When you refuse to wear a mask, what you’re saying is you don’t care about my health or safety; what you’re saying is that you want me and (by extension) my family to die. Why do you hate me so much that you...

You may very well be right. I just find it stunning that, for instance, we get one horrific attack on 9/11 that left 3000 souls tragically dead, and we immediately enact new travel restrictions and other regulations which, in order to help keep people safe, place a high burden and heavy...

Can’t argue that. I’ve always had a mostly cynical view of humanity but I think deep down I wanted to believe that people could surprise me for the better if given the chance, and it’s shocking to see that apparently the issue was that I wasn’t cynical enough.

That’s the thing that i just don’t understand in general with this pandemic. The most frequent complaint about life that I heard before the pandemic, from friends, family, coworkers, was that they never had enough time at home and/or enough time with family. And now here we are where the only...

I’m not sure exactly what it is. I can only really share what my experience was. When the lockdowns began in mid-March, it felt like most of my friends and neighbors were on board and were more concerned with staying healthy than going out. That was the vibe I got from my whole area. There were...

And this is why I had to make an emergency move in the middle of a pandemic: https://gothamist.com/food/videos-astorias-steinway-street-has-become-party-street-queens There’s always someone quoted in one of these types of reports that’s like, “How long did they expect us to stay inside for?”...

I have observed and been on the receiving end of similar taunts, without understanding the reasoning. The best I can come up with is that deep down even the most ardent anti-maskers know on some gut level that this isn’t pretend, and the cognitive dissonance of telling yourself everything is...

I get that it’s new and weird. I also think a lot of people who say that masks are uncomfortable aren’t giving it a chance, there is a learning curve. I have two brands of medical masks and one fits me better than the other. I have a few cloth masks and one is the clear winner for me, and one...

The enforcement issue is tricky because the reaction to the request in some cases has been hostility and threats of violence. I don’t necessarily think it’s fair that the burden of enforcement ends up falling on someone making minimum wage or close to it. It’s not worth getting close enough to...

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Speaking of can’t fix stupid... I either saw or read an interview with a woman who refused to wear a mask and the reason for not wearing one was “because I don’t want to get my germs.”

I can’t disagree with anything you’re saying, Mark. My reduced presence has been due to a couple real life things: I’ve just had to move and that was a time consuming and logistically exhausting task that took weeks to accomplish, and my move allowed me to get my family on better footing in...

Where I am, there is a regulation in place that you can golf but you can’t use the cart. I imagine a bunch of locals are traumatized and don’t know how to get around!

Pork chops at my local supermarket were way down in April from the usual prices, something I hadn’t expected. I usually pay between $2.49 and $4.49 a pound depending on which cut, size of the overall package and whether it’s on sale. $0.89 - $1.09 a pound throughout different trips in April...

Best of luck! So are we and it is not a fun time to have to move.

My day in no way compares to all of that that you have to endure. I tip my hat at you for somehow finding a way to get up every day and show up. I get to stay at home. I get to take care of my kids. I feel that I have it, if not exactly easy, certainly very lucky.

From what I understand, there was a lot of red tape from the Navy/federal government end which made it nearly impossible to send patients there. I don’t think it was for lack of trying from the city or the hospital system.

I 100% think that’s what will happen. When the rest of the country looks in a month like NYC looked, hopefully people will wake up.

It pisses me off so much because if everyone in the country/world who didn’t believe this was as big of a deal as it is came to live at my address for a week, it would be an eye opening experience. No need for me to repeat what I’ve already said a thousand times in this thread but it’s just so...

Exactly. It’s a double failure in my book. They’re not following the law and they’re not setting a good example. I am noticing that people around my area are losing patience with these regulations and either making choices in defiance of those regulators or trying to bargain their way out of...

You can’t socially distance at an active crosswalk in a busy corner, which is exactly where the hospital lets out. Our governor specifically said to wear masks in those circumstances. The way the order was written and the way the governor explained it does not leave room for interpretation.

I’m pretty much with you, Dave. I worried more about those things at the beginning when we still knew very little, while also feeling that it was more likely to be human interaction and crowded spaces than random surfaces. And that’s basically panned out. I recently observed a neighbor...

The measles outbreak in the NYC area was terrifying. Adding insult to injury, for medical reasons I can’t take the measles vaccine so I’m dependent on herd immunity for that one, and it was really scary to see how quickly it came roaring back. My wife was pregnant with our twins at the time and...

There seems to be a lot of that going around. I don’t understand the widespread stubborn refusal to accept that everything needs to be put on hold indefinitely if you want to stay alive. I’ve said this before in a different thread, but for me, Ive written off the entirety of 2020. If something...

Robert, I understand where you’re coming from and I completely respect that. Please allow me to say this: this thread isn’t important to me as a news source. It’s important to me because it’s the place I can discuss all of my virus thoughts with a like minded group. I’m fine with skipping news...