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  1. JohnVB

    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    I know a lot of people like to look at the religious concepts/analogies in the Matrix movies. When I saw these movies, I got the impression that the religious references were sort of "add-ons" - not really integral to the story line. Maybe it's just me, but I thought the philosophical ideas...
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    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    I just watched reloaded again tonight. I just caught that in the end of revolutions, the prophesy was really fulfilled but in a different way than morpheus was thinking. The One went to the source (physically) and ended the war. So the prophesy wasn't just "another system of control."...
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    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    Paul, A week ago, I was thinking as you are: "Neo is not machine nor part machine." But now I'm rethinking this. If you look only at the architects use of the word "design", I agree there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to suggest that there's some "machine-ness" about Neo. But check...
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    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    Patrick, I think you misunderstood. I'm not trying to say that Neo is purely a machine. Clearly there's a human element. I was merely posing a question and then tossing out a few potential answers. That statement by the oracle, though, indicates to me that there's more to it than "Neo can...
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    NickSoune, I really like that Matrix 101 link you gave. whether its all true or not, it has explanations of a lot of puzzling things in the movies. - bones
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    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    Max, You've got some very strange ideas about religion and people who hold religious beliefs. Just becuse someone holds on to religious beliefs doesn't mean they've thrown all logic out the window. There are some very smart people who hold religious beliefs. As for who might reject the...
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    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    Here are some more interesting thoughts. In Reloaded, the architect talks about the 2 doors that neo can go through. He also mentions that the other "ones" were given the same choice, only neo's choice was different. And as neo heads to the door to go back into the matrix, the architect...
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    Kyle, Why would the machines care where this 1% of the population goes? Why reestablish zion? Why not let the 1% fend for themselves after they "wake up"? - bones
  22. JohnVB

    The Matrix Revolutions (2003)

    I've read/scanned most of the posts in this thread. It looks like we're done rehashing and now we can get on to talking about some things in the story. Here are some thoughts and questions. What I took away from the films is this. (1) There are 3 parties/groups in the story: The...
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