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I think we're boiling down to personal preference here. I've been into audio for quite some time and have auditioned tons of speakers. Upon my recent purchase of martin lognans I very carefully listened to B&W CDM9NT and nautilus series, polk LSi, Thiel, and Martin Logan. To ME, nothing could...

Ling, And what would be an acceptible crossover?

Larry's point is well taken. Some don't like Martin Logan. Some love them. I fall into the category of love them. Strengths - excellent tone, instruments sound as they should. Very airy/deep and yet good imaging. Simply breathtaking when properly placed. weaknesses (for me) - power picky...