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  1. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    That's because the rain was falling on the coat in that shot. When he is at the train, he is under cover and the rain had time to roll off. Truly amazing raincoats they had in that day, eh? (I've heard the raincoat continuity error before and I refuse to believe one of my most beloved films...
  2. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    That's because it was a raincoat ! They are supposed to stay dry, otherwise what use would they be? However, if it was a wool overcoat or a cotton pullover, you'd have a point.:D (Touche!)
  3. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Lew, (Off topic) for your would-be baseball fans, I can recommend a great book that will answer all your scenarios and more. It is called "Watching Baseball" and it is by the great Red Sox broadcaster and former MLB second baseman, Jerry Remy. Remy is a legend in the field of baseball...
  4. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Note to those complaining about the "primitive special effects" in Casablanca. I bet you did not notice the "primitive" effect of the plane in the background at the airport before the climactic scene. The plane was actually half sized. You might reply "How could it be, there were workers moving...
  5. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue. The script is so precise, so sharp and so witty. It is one of the best scripts to ever come out of Hollywood, surprising because it was written and rewritten on a daily basis right on the set (When Bergman asked the director who her character really loves, he told...
  6. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    can be labled a chick flick. Like Ebert said about "When Harry Met Sally", it is not a chick flick when it has so many attributes that appeal to both sexes.
  7. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    I just realized a few pages back we had a discussion of major schools of acting and I would be remiss if I did not mention another - The Joey Tribbiani School of Soap Opera Acting. Quite innovative (let's hear from the master Himself): Truly a genius.:D
  8. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Thank you for small favors. :D Seriously Jack, I've read and reread the HTF analysis of 2001:ASO, learned more from it than any other thread on this forum and still don't understand it all. I have graduated from "God, am I going to have to drop acid to see this again" to an almost full...
  9. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Simply one of the greatest scenes in all of film, especially when you consider the time that the film was made and it still gives me goosebumps when I even think of the words "Play La Marseilles". See, you do have great taste, can appreciate a classic and I officially pronounce you not dead...
  10. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Good point, Zen. To bring up a point made before, I happen to think for sheer scope, story and difficulty of source material alone, "The Lord of the Rings" is a shoo-in as the greatest epic of all time. I love Ben-Hur, love The Ten Commandments and love GWTW, but I believe LOTR harkens back to...
  11. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Yeah Angelo, you are right. I was a little too brash. I've edited for stupidity.
  12. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Edited for stupidity.:b
  13. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Let me explain my over the top devotion to "The Magnificent Seven". This was my father's favorite western, probably his favorite movie of all time. I come from a family of 7 children. From the day my little brother was born in 1970, we were referred to as "The Magnificent Seven" (I was number 5...
  14. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Did you know that the Terry Malloy character was a surrogate for the director, Elia Kazan, and the film itself was an allegory for the battle Kazan went through when he "named names" in the House UnAmerican Activities investigations on communist infiltration of the movie business? That although...
  15. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    I believe the underlying theme of this thread (and Jack's comments) is that these types of statements are meaningless without some sort of explanation or justification for this type of critique (and no, "they bore me" is not an explanation). Are there any specific reasons these films do not hold...
  16. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    You don't even need to have someone else in the room. Watch it with Ebert's commentary (works for CK also). The person who does not learn something about appreciation of either film (or film art in general) from the Ebert commentaries is just stubborn or contrarian and should give up on this...
  17. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Brett, you are correct. And I don't think the dialog is cheesy, I was trying to temper my enthusiasm in light of my "blasphemer" accusation:b . I think the dialog is great: "He's prejudiced too, huh? " "Well, when it comes to a chance of getting his head blown off, he's downright bigoted."...
  18. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Blasphemer! Infidel!! :D The great thing about TMS is that you had one fairly established Hollywood actor (Brynner) competeing with a bunch of up and coming studs (McQueen, Coburn, Bronson etc.). Watch the dynamic between Brynner and McQueen. Every time Yul has a scene with "presence"...
  19. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Oh, I know what Hitchcock was doing here. He is very successful in his technique. He is also either a genius in casting Stewart in this role, or it is the most miscast role of all time. Given the uneasyness of many at seeing Stewart become creepy as the movie goes on (Hitch's goal, IMHO), I'd...
  20. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Didn't like Vertigo because I find the "Jimmy Stewart as stalker" plot a little creepy. But Rear Window has the single greatest reveal in the history of film. Course it helps that Hitchcock uses the most beautiful actress of all time! If Hitch can give me a reveal on Grace Kelly like that, I...
  21. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    This is one of the reasons why viewing older films is important (if you really want to learn about film). Contrast pre-Method acting with post-Method acting and understand both techniques and you will appreciate older films more. I find it fascinating to contrast Bogart with Brando, both of whom...
  22. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Those movies are supposed to be set in a different time, as opposed to those other older movies that are set in the time they are ahh...uhh ...uhhm Nevermind ...
  23. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Dialog, you forgot to mention dialog. It just weighs down those old "classics". Give me a few quips and a couple Burger King cup phrases and I'll be happy. But don't weigh me down with actual conversation and witty reparte, that's why I start to snooze! :D
  24. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    This thread reminds me of a quote I heard years ago (I thought it was really stupid at the time), "I used to think my parents were really dumb. Now that I'm older, I'm amazed at how much they've learned from me over the years". :D
  25. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Ah yes Lew. The old "popularity and critical acclaim as an immediate negative" routine. Where one judges a work of art by totaling how many positive reviews it has and then immediately determines it's worth as the inverse of the popularity. One of the foremost examples of critical thinking...
  26. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Just looking out for your health, Moe!
  27. Jeff Gatie

    having trouble getting through a few classics

    Sir, get yourself to a Doctor quickly, better yet call an ambulance, because I'm pretty sure all signs point to the fact that you are dead:D !
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