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The final scenes before and during the credits are some of the only things that I heard fans get excited about in this movie. I wouldn't be surprised if they still follow up on those parts of it because they tie in with other franchises. I would agree that a direct sequel to this film...

I haven't really seen any projections being extremely confident in this one. But you never know for sure how a movie is going to do until it is out and doing whatever it does. I don't think anybody thought The Marvels would struggle to get to $100 million domestically. And certainly no one...

I think Disney and Marvel made that double standard for themselves because of their past success. I don't think anybody is saying that a $50-$60 million opening would make Aquaman profitable at its budget point. I think it would be considered better than expected because DC has been in the...

The Marvels feels stitched together. It feels like it needed more work at the script stage. Obviously, I can't speak to what happened on the set because I wasn't there. What we do know is that it was delayed several times for additional work. At one point, it was scheduled to open in...

To be completely fair, Marvel has always made executive supervision part of the way they make movies. The MCU is Kevin Feige's sandbox. Filmmakers have certainly brought their own voices to it. But it is all supposed to be part of the larger construct of which Feige is the top architect...

If Disney executives believed Nia DaCosta was unable to execute the film properly, then they should have hired someone else to make it in the first place.

"Executive supervision?" Seriously? That honestly doesn't sound like the right takeaway there. Lots of films were shot during intense COVID. But he only mentions The Marvels as needing this kind of supervision on set. That's not a good look. Would Iger be willing to make that statement...

This is where rationale for box office becomes a bit of a guessing game and there is not one answer. It's probably a little bit of everything you mentioned and any number of other reasons. I fully intended to see No Time to Die on opening weekend a couple years ago. I bought my ticket in...

I don't think you can put the quality of the film aside. The rest of your points are valid but could have been overcome if the film clicked with the audiences who did come out to see it. If the movie had been really good, word of mouth from people who saw it and loved it could have made up for...

Vellani's comic book series that she mentioned in this interview is being collected in a paperback for release on March 19.

Incidentally, Zawe Ashton, who plays the villain here, is Tom Hiddleston's significant other. They did Betrayal together in the West End and on Broadway in 2019. That cast also featured Charlie Cox. Of course, this doesn't have anything to do with the movie itself. But it's interesting to...

The Pitch Meeting video is here. Spoilers, so don't click on the video if you don't want to know.

The Hollywood Reporter has an interview with Iman Vellani. Spoilers for anyone who hasn't yet seen the movie. Don't click if you don't want to know.

In this case, Nia DaCosta is the one who wanted the shorter running time. She has talked about this in recent interviews. I'm also not sure that extra running time is the magic solution here. The movie has so many problems. But then I hated the movie and you didn't, which is fine. I really...

The fact that Grevious was introduced in a series of shorts doesn't mean that you have to have seen the shorts in order to understand that Grevious is a new villain. It's just bonus information for those who want it.

As a big Ms. Marvel fan - that is correct.

Regarding @Sam Favate's spoiler tag in post #470. You don't need to know anything about Secret Invasion to understand The Marvels and in this case, that's the problem. It is a Disney+ series that aired in June and July this year featuring a depiction of Nick Fury as a sad, broken character...

She stayed at Kamar-Taj to learn from Wong.

You may very well be correct. But that article only talks about Quantumania and Marvels switching places, not Secret Invasion. It's possible that Secret Invasion would have come out earlier if The Marvels had made its original date. I don't think we have enough information to be sure one way...

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree. That only works if they actually pay things off. Doctor Strange had a more long-range tag like that. We knew that Infinity War and Endgame were going to come out before a Doctor Strange sequel. But its tag clearly implied Mordo would be the...

I didn't know who Thanos was when I saw that tag. But I understood from the context of the scene that he was the person orchestrating the events of the film and just assumed I'd find out more about him later. I didn't like Secret Invasion any more than you did. But this was actually a...

I agree to disagree on this point and move on.

The Avengers Initiative didn't pay off in Iron Man 2, but Nick Fury did. He appeared in a larger capacity in Iron Man 2. That film continued to establish the relationship between those two characters that began in the Iron Man tag. So there was still a payoff from that tag to a relatively...

That was two years, because Fury also appeared in Iron Man 2 to further the relationship with Tony before Avengers came out. I'm not saying they have to get all the way to the final destination right away, but they've bee using the credits scenes to put a lot of extra balls in the air that they...

Did anyone else notice the similarity between the ending of The Marvels and another comic book film that came out this year? I can't reveal the other film without spoilers for both films. But there's a very good chance that people posting in this thread have seen the other one.

What feels different to me is that the tags are pointing further down the road. Charlize Theron needs Doctor Strange's help to fix an incursion. Zeus wants Hercules to fight Thor. Shang-Chi's rings are calling out to....something. Harry Styles is Thanos' brother. But we don't get to see...

Technically, neither of the new characters in those do relate to this story at all. It's all about setting up stuff for the future that they may or may not get back to at some point. Monica isn't supposed to know who the character in the mid-credits scene is either. I don't think that...

I mentioned that myself previously in this thread. I'm not disagreeing that connecting to the TV shows makes The Marvels a harder buy-in than other Marvel movies. I'm saying that the movie attempted (poorly) to address that issue by inserting clunky flashbacks. I'm also saying that the movie...