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My words exactly. ps. Sorry for answering so late, I've been on holiday...

Craig, just to refresh your memory. Seems to me that this same conversation has been already made in this thread.

Of course he's not. But if ratio is better than 10/100, it's still a very good ratio.

Nope. He must have had some speakers and maybe a sub before SVS. I don't think he is some 15 year old teenie buying his first setup. Then he bought SVS and didn't like it's sound, then back to different sound (bought PSB), maybe a littlebit more midbass and missing low-end and everything was...

Graig, it's wasn't me who started this FR conversation. Look closer and you'll find that it was Mike^S who said it first. I just backed him up, because I have read this same comment about "missing bottom octave=tight sound", actually from YOU, from your Rocket UFW-10 Subwoofer review when you...

Sorry, I didn't have those numbers with me when I wrote that. I just pulled that sentence out of my hat. 103.1dB@25Hz with 10% THD is a good value. But why this discussion started to compare max spl numbers or max spl with 10% THD? Wasn't this originally FR related discussion? TN measured...

Never have and never will be. edit: And let's quit this catfight, that doesn't help anyone. I am just as eagar as you to find what could cause that sonic difference that James heard or what that difference was: THD, FR/roll-off, some frequency boosted etc.

James, thanks for those measurements. They are just what I expected them to be. Flat to 25Hz (with room gain) and then steep roll off, -12dB at 20Hz. If you could measure this sub outdoors it would roll off at 29-30Hz. 5Hz is actually pretty small room gain, but let's assume it is that much. SVS...

Man you are wrong. Those numbers are max spl, not FR. Nothing to do with FR. I don't even bother arquing with you, since you don't seem to know even basics. When James will post his numbers this quessing will end. It would be more useful if he could measure also his ex-SVS. Then we would...

Hah, merry christmas to you too! btw. You lied. :thumbsdown:

30Hz is pretty good, but to us who wants to hear the last octave, it just isn't enough. And I still can't see your math calculations? F3 was measured at 31Hz, you said it would be near to 20Hz, how is that possible? A smaller room might bring that to 28-30Hz, but that is still long way from...

I see only -3dB 31Hz measured by TN. At 20Hz it can be anything between -10dB and inf. Can you do the math properly? My beef is that this sub isn't a real sub. F3 at 31Hz isn't very good. 20Hz is impossible with this sub (with real music or movies). Sure it will sound "faster" and tighter...

How close? Is there any other proof than your word? That 94dB at 20Hz is maximum spl, not extension or FR. That is true what you say about harmonics, but that's a rare situation. Where can you hear pure say 20Hz signal? Organmusic maybe or siniwave. With movies and other kind of music...

So you are telling me that PSB 6i has a (in room) FR say +-3dB down to 20Hz? Where can we see that? Cause if it doesn't have, you really can't hear the 20Hz, atleast without a PEQ. And if we take F-M curve into consideration, it's gets even more difficult.

It has extension to 20Hz, but it's not linear. So normally you can't hear those below 30Hz freqs, since linear response is only to 30Hz. That is what matters. Enjoy! ;)

PBP measures 30-118Hz +-2.5dB. As here have been stated before, if subwoofer is lacking sub 30Hz material, it will sound faster and tighter. That little boom that you heard from your SVS, comes from those lower frequencies, which naturally sound slower and boomier. If you want your SVS to sound...