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I think chapter-skipping from the rooftop goodbye to the Superman flyover/end credits, as has been suggested, is the best way to help the ending of the Donner Cut, though I can see how the original scripted time reversal ending and the diner scene could have been part of the original (rough)...

Here it is, my take, fully restored from the original elements! May my verboseness haunt your dreams!!:) Here we go again. My fundamental problems with the RD cut (or, why I STRONGLY prefer the theatrical cut): I find the characterization of Superman in the theatrical cut highly preferable to...

I was in the midst of the greatest post EVER regarding the Donner Cut vs Theatrical Cut :) and the power went out. Now I know just how Richard Donner felt. I'll try to reconstruct my original intent, but I'm afraid the awesomeness may be reduced.

I enjoyed the opening a good bit, if only for the novelty. But there ARE some nice things about the whole thing though, but the opening especially. Definitely a "cool" factor to this release. And it's good to hear the LSO in action on another Superman film. I was surprised by the inclusion of...

The first set of comparison pics posted were mistakenly when the image was upsampled to 1080p on the person's setup. It also adjusted color and contrast, creating a vast difference (and improvement). The re-posted pics (not upsampled) looked very much like the original disc. Looks to me like...

Anyone know how the video quality between the new version of the theatrical cut and the Donner cut compare? About the same? Gotta say, I really wish the 3-disc set had been released in Region 1 as well. Then I wouldn't feel like I was missing out on anything since I don't want to spring for...

I'm anxious for reviews of the new STM and S2DE discs too, especially to find out if there's any improvement in picture quality, particularly S2. S2 IS getting a 5.1 track I see, so it would be nice to hear about that, AND of course the theatrical soundtrack for STM. Strange though that only...

That's the point some people have been trying to make. In the Lester theatrical cut, Superman gives up his powers before he bangs her. In the Donner Cut, it's after. Honestly, I don't know which is better. If he can control that particular function, does that mean he's spent a lot of time...

I know the Donner Cut gets a 5.1 track. Does anyone know about the Superman 2 SE (Lester Cut)? Did it get a 5.1 track, or the same 2.0 from the orginal release? Hopefully, I'll still find the Donner Cut worthy of a couple spins, since I still want to hold out for some ultimate HD boxset with...

Yeah, I never had a problem with the amnesia kiss. I always thought it played rather well and had a nice, genuine feel to it. I do think the fans have been a little hard on Lester in that any animosity he may have had for the material certainly doesn't show through the WHOLE film. Though the...

I read the AICN review and while one's feeling about it may vary: I see how the end of the film could actually make Superman II a far more PERSONAL journey for the character, as Superman becomes the only person affected by the film's events. And although Donner would not have ended both...

Haha. I'm sure there'd be a place at that tabe for me! Honestly, the more the Donner Cut tracks music from John Williams and the LSO, the better its advantage over the theatrical cut will be. Ever since someone pointed out that S2 sounds like a high school marching band compared to STM, it's...

Honestly, we can probably thank the hype produced by Superman Returns for this ever happening. Makes it a lot easier sell to the masses. The Donner Cut is certainly not it's own hype machine--only to us wackos on the Internet.:)

Well said, Jonathan. Kind of a shame about all the shot-to-shot lighting issues, but we couldn't really expect that much money to be poured into this, though it certainly got more attention in the mainstream press than I would have expected. It would be nice if this release makes some money...

That's very interesting and explains why no one is designating DD Plus on BDs, as opposed to it just being a mistake as someone indicated in another thread. Seemed strange to me that a studio would list one thing on one format and another on another when in fact they were the same thing. The...

Ha. I still remember getting all excited about that Alien rerelease...that was nowhere. :) And that was for Halloween and would likely have been a lot easier to market to the masses than the Donner Cut. Still bummed about how that got scaled back.

Nice find. I also enjoyed the comments that followed, particularly the one illuminating how events in Scrooged were made to mirror what happened with production of Superman II. Sweet!

The Donner Cut could suck worse than Superman III or IV for all I care, and I'd still be happy because I'd essentially have a new Christopher Reeve Superman film.

I second that emotion! I've even referenced that moment before because it served a great purpose. Disregarding any kind of racist take anyone might have against that bit, that's where the film embraces the silliest thing about Superman himself (in this otherwise serious treatment of the actual...

How dare you remind me of the annoying hovering in Superman Returns!! :) No wonder Routh can't seem confident enough. The guy isn't even allowed to stand on his own two legs. And isn't hovering when having a conversation kind of rude, like talking down to someone? Especially when you're...

Even as a little kid watching this at home that bothered me. I guess all we can do to rationalize it is say he did something to prevent the aftershock or repaired some "mini-fault" before going to Lois. I guess we can forgive it that since he did so many things before turning back time, it's...

I believe I said as much in my post, that even in the Donner version you'd have to argue he wanted to tell Lois if you didn't want him to suddenly have no super powers of perception and not react Clark-like to the "no bullet" from the gun. I guess I just prefer to think of Superman as a method...

The time-warp theory vs. the spinning the world backwards bit still works fine. (It's ok to disregard the filmmakers' opinion of a scene. There's no narrator saying "This is how you should interpret this.") All you have to rationalize is that the physics Superman knows enable him to make time...

I can't confirm it's gone, of course, but if they used every bit of Donner footage they could, they'll use the "freedom of the press" line the way he shot it. Unless, of course, it was misinformation posted a while back. For all I know, DONNER could have shot both versions of the line, or...

I never really had a problem with the time warp Superman creates at the end of STM, but I agree that if Donner really wanted to put it at the end of Superman II, he should have amended the ending to STM too. But perhaps that isn't possible. It just seems an embarassment to have 2 films with...

I suppose the "your years" line could be inerpreted: By that reckoning I have been dead by many thousands of years as they are defined on Earth (meaning revolutions around the sun). I like Patrick's explanation, even if it was just a nonsensical line up there with parsecs in Star Wars. The...

SUPERMAN -- There can be only two! :) You know what would be an AWESOME movie: Jar Jar vs. Nuclear Man!! And I UNDERSTAND SR to know what Singer was going for, but it doesn't make it any better--the "deadbeat dad" line is just a final kick in the face once you have the film down, the twist...

EXCELLENT post, even if I disagree about the Batman bits (at least if citing Batman Begins). I didn't find him THAT crazy, but to me Batman would HAVE to be a LITTLE crazy to do what he does with no powers whatsoever. That actually makes it realistic to me.

Umm, many of us lovers of Donner and Reeve would STRONGLY disagree with you. And the action was rather uninventive, I'd say the least inventive of any Superman film actually. But, no, I didn't see Pirates II.