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go to www.camcorderinfo.com and see what they have to say about those camcorders. I was also considering the 22 but read that it's poor mic placement picked up some of the camcorder operations. But my brother in law has this camcorder and I thought it had great video...though I had nothing to...

The TRV-38 was also on my short list and has gotten good press from the user community. I also have a friend who owns one is very pleased with it - like most sub $2000 camcorders, you will find that low light is ok but don't expect any miracles. You can always add a video light on the 38's hot...

I'm not sure if this is in your budget but I just bought the PV-GS70 the Xmas and I'm thrilled with this camcorder. I got it fron onecall.com for $637 shipped afer a small rebate. Go to your nearest Circuit City and it will cost you $1k!