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Hey ... You get the big bucks with Secrets ... YOU are da man for this job. :) :D :emoji_thumbsup:

Hey ... That works, too ... :)

Mark ... I think you have hit on a pretty good looking system here. For example, using Max SPL at 16, 20, 25, 31, and 40 Hz (@ one meter outside with < 10% THD)) ... 70 dB could score zero points, 130 dB could score 120 points ... with 2 points awarded for each dB above 70... for a possible...

Mark (and all), There has never been a perfect system for defining absolute product performance for any venue ... cars, speakers, etc ... But a system of SOME form would be quite valuable ... even if it is merely in chart form ... an expanded form of the old Nousaine Charts, for example...

Ed ... I would think absolute scores. Price, size, weight, footprint .. etc... are all items which are easily found by the consumer. The type of information your are providing is not easily found. For example ... The STF-2 had 102-103 dB dynamic compression thresholds from 25 Hz on up, where...

Ed ... I actually had an STF-1 here ... and based on what I measured here, with it and the PB-10, the STF-2 falls in between them in dynamic power ... not surprising, with an 8 inch driver in the STF-1 vs. the 10 inch in the STF-2. And the "Big Five" is definitely going to help a LOT of...

Ed ... The picture is bcoming much clearer with each review you do. The Quick Sweep DOES show the big 5 ... what it does not show is how long the subwoofer CAN "hold" the high levels in the big five ... SO ..... It would appear that, after looking at the Quick Sweep Dynamic Output Max (the...

Ed ... Excellent response, thanks ! A followup question.... Would you then say the Quick Sweep Dynamic output limits are a pretty good barometer for what we are actually hearing from normal use of a subwoofer ? It appears the better ANY subwoofer has done in this test, the better it has...

Tom ... I WAS actually thinking about Fidel when I typed that ... but as we cannot even travel to Cuba from the states, I decided he did not count ... ;)... besides, I ALSO used "RARE" ... :)

Jack and Ed ... A serious question. Would you expect then, based on the idea that one can tell from GP measurements, that the PB10-ISD, if two are used, will sound about the same as a single PB12-Ultra/2? Max 20 Hz @ 2 meters from two PB10 's ... 100 dB Max 20 Hz @ 2 meters from a single...

Robb ... I stand corrected, I should have said LIT cigar in one's mouth ... :) Ed ... You nailed it on the Genelec ... As you know, I am playing with the DD-18 in our home, and it is a darn nice piece of subwoofer, though pricey even at its $3500 "street price" ... It *does* have an edge...

Robb ... Nice Link, PLUS a guy can learn about cigars in between subwoofer reviews. More guys need to try cigars ... it is RARE to see an angry man with a cigar in his mouth ... ;) Ed ... Excellent review, and you are getting REALLY good at letting people know a subwoofer is not very good...