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Gil: Good find on the 80 Hz analog bypass! I agree that it certainly makes sense that 5 frequency points would be costlier to implement. And 80 Hz is a good place to have one for most users. Denon has always been a proponent of 80 Hz anyway. If you get a chance, I would be interested in what...

Gil: Yes I have tried the Pure Direct Mode but I haven't noticed much of a difference between it and regular Direct mode with either digital or analog material. I do plan to test it more. As for subwoofer volume levels, mine is set the same as before and, bass-wise, I can't tell any...

I ran the 3802 as a pre/pro and now run the 3803 the same way. I'm not hearing huge differences either, although I agree that the 3803 easily wins on paper. I upgraded for several reasons. I'll admit the temptation of upgrade fever, but the 3803 cleaned up a few user friendliness issues I had...