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That's interesting as I thought Deniro was just being Deniro. Nothing new there and pretty much par for the course for him. Different strokes I suppose....

Well your position on this film seems to have been cemented way before its release and none of this opinion is a surprise.

18 pages on this thread and very little actual discussion of the film. Watched this in the past week and thought it was amazing. Phoenix performance is riveting.I actually watched it twice now and agree that the film is very dark in subject matter and extremely well crafted.