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You took the words right out of my mouth. Sometimes we right these long replies to try and get people to understand the meaning of what we are trying to say. It's hard to get a one liner in and not get ripped for not explaining yourself.

Samuel, Good deal. All I meant was that everyone seems to have their own types of fade aways. To me Jordan's elevation and finesse is the one that everyone is trying to emulate.

Howard, I was try to elaborate on what you were trying to get across to some Kobe fans. I agree what you were saying. We're on the same page. I think people are missing the point about the 6 rings debate. MJ 3-peated 2 times within 7 years. Big difference when you are the only real star on...

I guess I need to be educated. Who really took the fade away to a new level, and with elevation?

I agree totally. The officiating is horrible. I think the players and coaches should not be surprised at all right now. It's in the 6th game now. They should be use to it. Look at last night for example, Rick Adelman got a tech right at the beginning of the game :thumbsdown: . All he did was...