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Ah, very true! In 2000, in LA, we visited 4 DVD labs at least (one very interesting visit was to Sony's, leading to a rather heated discussion about anamorphic, colour issues and audio tracks; I remember Robert George taking part, and in those days those people working there were real...

Some even seem to perceive a difference that's not there in their system, e.g. between 20-bits and 24-bits sampled audio. Of course, in "mediocre" systems and less-than-optimal sound rooms, even the difference between 16-bit and 20-bit would be hard to detect. Cees

Perhaps they hear a marked difference on their mediocre system, but the fact is: they don't hear anything even near the perfection we're talking about (in a general sense). BTW: the "noise" in this thread's title refers to video noise (and grain), not audio, which is a totally different...

That is true. Better terms would have been excessive EE and excessive DNR, including in the title of this thread (:) ). As said, there's nothing wrong with both techniques, as they need to be used to restore the original image as the director intended/created in cases when it was degraded by...

Same for me. May I also add that some "EE" is regularly present on original film stock, especially as a result of background projection and classic (analog) unsharp-mask techniques? And that there's a fine (but important) line between "noise" (scratches, dust) and film-grain? EE and DNR...