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Back from the dead! I have a trilogy thread for this sort of thing...let me look. Lord of the Rings Trilogy Discussion Thread It's your info, so I won't repost it there. Just a heads up :) Great news, though.

Bad-ass and bought. Thanks for the pic, Kami! You rock, Chuck

Claire, Much of that had been hashed out MONTHS ago, but your succinct appraisal and added insights were a pleasure to read. It doesn't change the fact that some fans might not like the changes (and that's good), but it certainly pokes a LOT of holes in the "what the heck is PJ doing?" camp ;)...

I agree with Seth (and Claire, and many others). Bean was incredible in FOTR. Although Gollum is my favorite over both films, Boromir is right behind. A tricky role, pulled off brilliantly. I loved the EE for the additional Sean Bean work. He deserved more attention than he got. It was a...

Kim, I work in DC. We usually get the "ran out of gas" or the "reformed con who HAS to meet his Parole Officer and needs metro money" stories. Do they have a network or a national strategy :D That Gollum video was an eye-opener and no mistake. Not sure how to reward the talent behind the...

Dee, I wasn't getting on you. Merely saying that I had no counter to that argument. At that point, we were comparing opinions, and that's fun and interesting, but not terribly objective. That's all. I've made several criticisms myself, starting from my initial review. Take care, Chuck

DeeF, Darth Vader was many great things. Visceral isn't a word most fans would use to describe him. And I guess Luke and Han were in all that danger from the faceless Stormtroopers, unlike Aragorn and Company. You see what you see. We see what we see. You asked us to back it up. They did...

Dennis, I can do the exact same bickering re: AOTC. Riding the beasts in the arena was as bad as Fellowship, and frankly Anakin on the Potato Beast (while wooing Padme) was worse than all of them. The difference being the monster(s) in FOTR were quite better. I freely admit that the average...

Dennis, I know you mean(t) no disrespect :) I don't agree that the QUALITY of AOTC is superior. There are quite a few ugh moments in AOTC as well, although none are as egregious as the Treebeard bluescreen. The overall technical showing does appear to be superior to TTT MINUS GOLLUM. But part...

Just for you Dennis:

If you took Gollum (and to be fair, Yoda) away, I would be hard pressed to choose which effects company had the best show. I felt FOTR was more solid all around than both, to be frank. The "hand-held" cam shots during the Clone Battle on Geonosis were jaw-dropping, made even moreso by the fact...

Yoda was a monumental accomplishment, no doubt. But I can't help but shake the feeling that Gollum was a tougher challenge. Yoda existed primarily in digital sets. His interaction was limited, and his screen time was short. Gollum interacted outside in the wild, on sets, and with physical...

I am hoping for a Special Achievement Award, for the actor (who is unlikely to get a nom) and the team who supported him. It IS a milestone. It should be recognized. They should be noticed. Maybe the AA's will actually get this one right. Take care, Chuck

I tend to agree with several of the above sentiments. I found certain moments in TTT to be equal or greater in terms of emotional resonance. I felt the picture to be slightly less than the sum of FOTR, but I strongly believe that is due to the structure of the film as the second act. The first...

That's "too true." I am the one who recently called for peace in here, so I'll do my best to keep it. Please let's make sure everyone speaks for themselves, and not entire segments of the population (such as "Tolkien fans"). I am both a Tolkien fan, and a PJ/crew fan. The meeting of the two...

Lots of bickering here among friends. I feel Matt's pain. I don't agree about the films, but I was a lonely voice of sadness in the AOTC thread many months ago, basically toiling on the other side of the fence. But we came to an understanding there, and we can do so here. I have no problem...

I was with Scott. Grima was little evil. Just petty and sad and jealous. Saruman was BIG EVIL, and he manipulated Grima into a very nasty betrayal. That was my take, Chuck

Tim, your words are too kind. I sent a PM to disavow you of any Mayer misconceptions and let you know I appreciate the comments. Besides, any time I ever tried to say something "as fact", someone who knew a heck of a lot more than me stomped me flat :D I never really was bothered by the single...

Catching up...I know you missed me. Anyways, to address some points: 1) Sam's speech. My personal view has softened on multiple viewings, but the desired effect feels somewhat forced. FWIW, Sam is a GREAT character in this film, and Sean's performance is the strongest (save Sir Ian's) of the...

:D Agreed It's a balancing act, and a difficult one. PJ (and editors) handled it very well. It also necessitated some timeline shifts, but these have already been discussed. It worked wonderfully for most. It just made me want to read the books. I think I'll forego waiting, and give them...

Tim, If anything, the magic in FOTR made me less forgiving of PJ and follow-on chapters. Hence my initial hesitance following TTT. I knew I had seen greatness, but I had some trouble connecting. Two additional viewings later, and the film has only gotten better. Not through softening my stance...

Lou, I felt he was leaning that way. I think Sam's dedication was the thing, because seeing Frodo almost GIVE the ring to the Nazgul would not instill a lot of trust in *ME*! But he saw the team, he understood what had to be done, and he did see Frodo's will earlier. Faramir made an informed...

A few pages to catch up on. I took in a third viewing yesterday, and I now feel comfortable saying that TTT is my favorite movie of the year. I *STILL* prefer FOTR as a stand-alone film, but that is due to it's structure and film necessities. I am comfortable giving TTT a perfect rating now, and...

Two straight posts of mine where I echo the comments of the poster above me...even though those posts were not there while I was writing mine. I am not a plagiarist!!! :D Chuck

Oops...the more on Faramir I promised. The scene AFTER he "interrogates" Gollum (heartbreaking I might add), he does the same to Frodo. That scene mirrors the one at Amon Hen (although Faramir does not succumb to the charm...he merely continues his course of action) by placing Faramir in his...

I had to explain the "she" to my wife last night...she'll forget by the time TTT is off screens. I have enjoyed catching up in this thread. It was my favorite place last year, and it is so again now :D I posted a second review for my second viewing. The film was equally as good, but I relaxed...

Other thoughts as I prepare for my second viewing tonight: While I don't feel the editing was great, I will say I didn't feel a minute of this film. It was extremely easy to watch. Last year, when they left Lothlorien, I was really feeling the time. Not the case this year. I feel the EE will...

William, That's a PJ addition, not in the book. Take care, Chuck

Coming from my review thread and catching up here. I failed to mention the Storming of Isengard, as fully realized as a dreamer could imagine in this film. Absolutely beautiful. I for one always felt for Gollum. His Song on the CD is pitch perfect, believe it or not. He broke my heart in the...