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Yes, has a franchise entry ever been more upstaged by a spin-off film than NO WAY HOME? SPIDER-VERSE is more nimble and enjoyable even if I liked N.W.H.

Crikey, I wish this whole canon thing away - Maybe Dr. Strange could add that to his next spell!! I used the 'Spiderman 8 1/2' thing mostly as an homage to Fellini. Not in any way slighting SPIDER-VERSE - it's clearly my favorite Spiderman on film.

Why didn't you go nuts on Jake? He's the one that first listed Maguire and Garfield as not canon. I was just agreeing with him. Heck, I even quoted him! Cherry picking your pique much?

I would put Spider-Verse in the same category as the Maguire and Garfield films - part of the "history", but still not "canon".

Good post, Jake. I only count the animated film as half because it's not canon. As I posted I disagree with most of your rebuttals, even if only mildly. As a stand-alone movie, it simply hasn't deserved the kind of praise it's gotten including serious discussion of Best Picture. It's a better...

OK. Finally waited long enough to attend SPIDERMAN 8 1/2 (the animated feature I'm counting as the half) and went to a virtually empty theater. It's good. It has some nice bits - but, the greatest thing since sliced bread??!! C'Mon!!! And, I honestly don't see the WOW!! factor many are claiming...