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In addition to what Chris PC just wrote, I don't understand why SI hasn't done a newer version of the 504 including scaling. The 504 came out 3 years ago. That's aeons ago in the electronics industry! :)

I agree with Lewis, and I don't even have a Denon (yet). :) I've had Pioneers for years (414, 333, 05, 45a, 47ai) and I am personally sick and tired of being "taken out of the moment" when the layer change hits. I *would* have naturally progressed to the 59AVi, but not with the layer change it...