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So I'm in the process of building my 5.1 setup. Yes I know the Onkyo is a 7.2, but I can get it for the same price as the yamaha. Through my searching I have found both the Onkyo and the Yamaha for $219.99 and the Pioneer for $174.99 all being refurbished models. First off, are these good deals...

I'm a beginner to home audio. Have a new home and it is pre-wired with in-ceiling 5.1. Yes I know most of everyone on here is completely against in-ceiling, but that's what I've got. So please no comments on how much in-ceiling audio sucks. I myself love music and movies, but the primary purpose...