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Ryan: I think I can get my hands on a pair of Athena S1 bookshelves. Wonder if they will do a better job on CC duty than the one that comes with the Point 5 will?

Vaughan, completely unrelated to the topic: Are you of any relation to Robert Odendaal...an executive at Bell in Canada? Just curious, I work for the company...and know he lived in the RSA.

Ryan - you are so right. My wife is always complaining she does not hear the dialogue well with the Athena Point 5. That CC has got to go! I too will look to upgrade the CC. Hint: Athena's www sells new old stock direct at considerable discounts. Thanks for confirming what I've been...

What about matching "gain" on the amps? How careful does one need be when using two different brands? Also, how can one find out which amps can pair with each other? Also curious.

And if you want to go smack in the middle, try the Monitor Audio Silver series!

I also have the Athena Point 5 MKII for my modest HT set-up. My serious gear is for 2-channel only. I have always been curious to know if there is a considerable difference in using the Atoms vs the Athena Point 5 for HT in a small room. What are the differences in your opinion?

Ya, Bobby T. Funny how some speakers fit certain stages in one's life. My dorm room set up were tower JBL's, a Sony CDP changer and an H-K 2-channel stereo/tuner. I thought it was the cat's meow while listening to AC/DC and the like at max SPLs. Now my towers got slimmer, the drivers...

Hmmm....$500 for full range towers that give good bass, but are refined enough to handle opera? A true challenge! But I'd take a look at new old stock of Monitor Audio S6. $600 new on audiogon from a reputable dealer in Chicago. Shipping will be extra of course...but the Monitor Audio...

If you are listening to mostly rock, as I did in college, tight bass may not be a priority....then the aforementioned subs are ok. But, if you want clean and tight, use the money to invest in better speakers with a fuller frequency range. Unless you are looking at a REL, but that is a lot...

The M-S 908s are a great speaker! I A/B'd them with v3 Paradigm Studio 60 and 100s and found them to be much more refined than the 'digms....and I like the Paradigm Studios a tad more than the B&W 600 series. The only down side for me on the 908s was the laminate finish. They also are not...

My NAD AVR had an on screen menu to turn the subwoofer "on", set fronts to "small", etc. Its own internal crossover kicked in once the sub preout was in use. I did turn the crossover to the max setting on the sub, however, to make sure it wouldn't interfere with the AVR's x-over level. You...

B&W would never lie! I feel better already about buying those Canare bi-wires off e-bay. Wish I spent this much effort in choosing the bloody speakers.

Shiu, it was more of a question than a comment... I'll restate as a proper question: When bi-wiring, are a speaker's crossovers being employed, or are they bypassed altogether once the links are removed (and the speaker now relies solely on the current supplied from each set of wires to...

Shiu, I meant that by having a monitor/sub combo, one is allowing the sub to take on the lower Hz and the monitors to take on the higher Hz....my AVR was determining what the crossover point was set at. I wasn't literally bi-amping the monitors, just referring that they benefited from having...

Ok, for those of us without the PhDs, to bi-wire or not is a case of which ever sounds better to the listener: i. Having the speaker's full complement of internal crossovers do the work (single wiring). -or- ii. Having 2 speaker wires carry different frequencies and perhaps using only...

I had Paradigm Studio 20s paired with a PSB 15" sealed sub, and it sounded great....used the crossover in my AVR. In essence, you're bi-amping in such a configuration. The detail and imaging was just fantastic from the 'digms...although the base was not as accurate as one would get in a quality...

I had a chance to hear the Arro this past weekend. It was paired with a Classe integrated amp and a Rega Planet CD player...a nice set-up overall to audition them. Listening to Pat Barber (Jazz vocalist), I was impressed with the level of refinement and detail. Bass response was suprisingly...

3 short experiences: Dealer A "How much should I be spending on cables", I quizzed. "20% of total system cost", he replied without blinking, knowing very well that works out to $750 in my case. Dealer B "The whole Monster branding of speaker cable has turned me off buying it, I go with...

Thanks, Scott. I heard many good things about Sim Audio, but it is quite expensive...even used. Heard Classe is a good starting point to higher-end electronics, perhaps lesser known, but a good all rounder nonetheless. My sources have told me to stay away from lower-end Parasound...they...

Disclaimer: Boy, do I hate threads like these....but it's not like my friends know anything about this stuff. ------------------------------------------------------ What I gots: -Monitor Audio Silver S8 floorstanders. -Frequency Response +/- 3dB: 35Hz- 30KHz. -Sensitivity (1W@1M) 91dB...

They're supposed to be higher-end, but hard to get a read on. Seems like they approach each tier/product line with different technologies, builds, etc. to maximize value for that specific product range. e.g. some lines use a space-age material to dampen their cabinets making for a relatively...

My NAD AVR is being used in a 2-channel set-up. While I want to sell it and go the separates route, it is hard to justify given its fine dual qualities as both an integrated amp as well as an AVR. Add to the mix the amount of fine, available AVRs in the market today which has brought down the...

I did the auditioning at Kromer too. The 908s and Paradigms were set to the same amp (forget which one), but the Monitor Audios were hooked up to a different amp, so I cannot give a truly direct comparison. The Monitor Audio Silver 8s were hooked up to an Audio Refinement Complete...and they...

Ideally I'd like to keep the A/V receiver hanging around, use it as a pre/pro/tuner etc. Still, there is that intangible feeling of "separates would be better", no matter how musically oriented my receiver is...especially if we're talking a tube or hybrid amp. So, as I prepare to list my NAD...

Errr, I was thinking more with the likes of Jolida, Audio Refinement, maybe a couple of monoblocks I can rummage in some garbage dump.... I find my NAD A/V a little warm...of course I have about 12 hours only on the MA Silver 8s thusfar.

I've done an A/B on the M-S 908s vs Paradigm Studio 60s in Toronto...to me, no comparison....the 908s were much more refined for my tastes...about the same price as the 'digms too. I ended up with Monitor Audio Silver 8s, only because I was not sure of placement of the 908s given those...

John, I've read your posts before and respect....you're convincing me into selling the A/V receiver and investing in a more high-end integrated than the NAD....forget about biamping for now, more headroom is not an issue.

FeisalK: Ratings are as follows: 80W x 5 continuous 100W x 2 continuous Dynamic: 160W x 2 into 4 ohms 230W x 2 into 2 ohms

No, I have not tried it out...I will 'borrow' something from a dealer, or perhaps biamp it with a (yikes) Yamaha HTR I have to see if it works....hardly the ideal components I wanted to be using. I was largely going under the assumption that biamping is a sure fire way to improve your system...

Feisalk: thought of that, but isn't that just bi-wiring? Recall the NAD steps down its power output when going to more than 2 channels. Sounds impressive otherwise :D Wayne A: True Texan words, I just won't get the $$$ the A/V receiver is worth, especially way up here in these parts (Canada...