UPDATE: ALL system deals (consisting of main speakers, center, and rears) will include a FREE pair of Swan M200's! Now you can have Swan sound on your desktop at the same time you have a complete Swan system in your home theater! This offer is RETROACTIVE, so for those dozen or so systems...
To kick off Fall 2007, we've decided to do something to create a little excitement that we've never done before. Due to a very special deal arranged with Swan on a very limited supply of new Diva models, we're able to pass along some truly spectacular discounts. The terms of this event...
We've had about ten pairs as of late with bad amps -- this model's first issues, literally, in over a couple thousand pairs since 2004 or so. Apparently all went to new Egg. I've been replacing them with direct swaps. If you have a bad pair, let me know personally and I'll make it right...
The Audio Insider imports all Swans Diva and Classic models into North America. Yes, we service the original Diva line now sold at a stunning discount via New Egg, as well as promoting the new series nicknamed Classic at TheAudioInsider.com. The Divas aren't going anywhere; in fact, demand...
Hi folks, A few points about Swans and New Egg: 1. NE is exclusive online reseller for the original Swans "Diva" line. I import it for them and I also promote the new Swan "Classic" line at The Audio Insider.com 2. All Swans product, excepting the small M200 speakers, are double boxed...
I'd add that there's another enormous issue with bass systems in the real world: An almost universal lack of proper setup options that make subwoofers integrate correctly with their fullrange loudspeaker partners. Put another way, would we haphazardly wire a tweeter onto our $3000 main...
Vaughan, there are two ways to present views of this phenomenon. I've limited mine to a subjective, layman's view in order to argue from an easily grasped perspective. At times this can include turning questions related to perception (large = heavy = slow) into other questions: Why is speed not...
Heh, it's always hard to follow Mark up. ;) Here's one more mental experiment for the layman. (I thought this had been said here before but it must have been another thread:) If Driver A was slower than Driver B when both were subjected to the same input, wouldn't Driver A merely output a...
Great essay. Note that the driver tracks the input. Mass affects output level and bandwidth, but within the driver's bandwidth, the coil tracks the signal just fine. There is no mass-related "speed" penalty there. (Which, by the way, also tells us that an ultra-light planar speaker diaphragm...
Vaughn, I posed this as conventional wisdom, not as fact:
I think we need to change our terms here; please correct me if I'm wrong: At the same level and frequency, the larger diaphragm experiences lower peak accelerations with proportionally lower forces applied. At some point an actual...
By 'undersized' and 'adequate' I'll assume that the outputs from both systems are identical in level; they have the same efficiency because the motors are proportional to that output. What happens is that the 18" goes lower. It's greater area gives it better coupling. In fact, you may have...
This question gives yet another way to sum all this up: A broad-spectrum, complex-signal input may contain enough energy at high enough frequencies to energize more than one driver -- or all drivers -- in a multi-way speaker system. Let's say the input signal has fundamentals in the very...
Vaughan, it's counterintuitive, isn't it? Certainly the heavier moving assembly, like the heaver automobile, cannot accelerate as quickly. Except, as Lee-c says, when we simply apply enough motive force, at which point even the mass of the heavier car is proportional to the force v. mass of...
Smaller=lighter=faster in the context of band-limited woofers (I assume the OP meant woofers and not midrange drivers) is a myth. It's all about the context of intended use. Below a frequency commonly used in hifi for 12" and 18" woofers, smaller=lighter=faster is a myth. Band...
Incidently, there is a rough correlation between diaphragm area, frequency, amplitude, and velocity that raises yet another counter-intuitive point. If your very large area diaphragm weighs 100 grams and moves 1/4" to get the job done (pick a reference output of 90dB) and your smaller...
We're all on the same page, provided we use the same context. The benefit to faster diaphragm motion is either higher frequency output or higher amplitude output or some combination of the two. For all intents and purposes, however, the larger/heavier diaphragm is not slower, it's just more...
Let me take another shot at this: The idea that a larger or heavier diaphragm is slower is a myth. The comparison the OP posed involves two drivers used over the same or similar freqencies, say, below 80Hz. The 12" driver has no advantage related to speed whatsoever. Lowpass frequency for...
He's right. But only technically and only within a context not applicable to the actual use of either the 12" or the 18" driver. Short version: Within the operating bandwidth both drivers track the input signal in real time. There is no speed penalty for the bigger driver at all. Where a...
With respect, the Swans and Rockets are not similar designs. The cabinets are perhaps a similar look but the speakers are different enough that if the OP wants to discuss Swan he probably won't find a useful discussion in another forum. Ronneil, please let me know what I can do to help out...
Hi Greg, yes, we're temporarily down; going to a backup hopefully before the weekend. Apparently something or someone got into the system and took it out. We apologize for the inconvenience but urge you to try again soon.
Thanks fo the nice words. We believe the Swans have that neutral sound because Swan uses some rather impressive drivers that lend themselves to minimalist crossovers. That, along with higher than average sensitivity seems to make for a I-can-hear-my-amp sound; that neutral signature many have...
You touch on a number of pertinent points, eddieZEN. Funny you should mention Robert Parker – we just opened a modest ’94 Napa Cab…and having just about completed an analysis of about 100 brand-name drivers over the last 30 days, was struck again by the complexity of the speaker design process...
Hi eddieZEN, I have a dog in this race so take this as you will. 20 years experience in the sales, marketing and distribution of hifi tells me that I-direct is undoubtedly less expensive, item-for-item, and averages at least 1/2 off. The advertising overhead alone for conventional...
I think David is right on the mark. The RS250 is in the nearly identical format class as the 2.1. The CSE, on the other hand, is not a bentwood horizontally-symmetrical large 165mm two-way, which is what both the 2.1 and RS250 are. IMO a comparison between the ELT CSE and the 2.1 would be...
Stephen is correct: In short, the crossovers dictate the power division per driver. As far as bi-wiring goes, in the case of all parallel crossover networks, which probably account for over 90% of all passive crossovers, the multiple amplifier connection is theoretically superior to the...