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Hey Robert! Good chatting with you, my friend. I agree, I think the master is impressive and does justice to the film. I just wish more people had the chance to see it looking its best on disc. IMHO, the 4K disc looks very good and most people will be pleased. But the larger file is gorgeous...

Greetings all. Been a long time since I've posted here. Hope you're all well! I certainly don't mean to hijack RAH's fine thread, but someone brought up my review of this title, so I wanted to comment here. To clarify, the OUATITW 4K disc certainly isn't bad. It offers a very handsome looking...

I just learned of Robert's passing and am deeply saddened to hear of it. As many of you know, we lost Barrie Maxwell at The Bits a few months ago, and my wife Sarah and I have both had close family members pass away this year. Just way too much death in 2012. I met Robert on a number of...

Wow... the discussion exploded while I was away and changed to a new topic to boot! Ha - I am apparently getting too old to keep up with these things anymore... First of all, hello to all you longtime members, hello again to you new members... and a special hello to Amir. Nice to see you...

Last I heard from them they were definitely planning to get it in the hands of fans, but were looking for the right timing. They'd thought that might happen by the end of 2011 but it obviously didn't. I'll see what I can find out.

Second. It's been a long time since I felt willing to take the time to visit a discussion forum again, after the format war, the silliness involving Penton at BD.com and the equally silly LOTR "green tint" debacle. But I may just have to drop in around here a little more often. HTF has ALWAYS...

Having had this very experience a few years ago at your own kind invitation, I can only wholeheartedly agree. This Blu-ray should be special.

No... I don't really have any interest in that. Penton can speak for himself. He's certainly never had a problem speaking up before...

Well... looks like Penton's BD.com thread has been scrubbed and locked. Who knows what that means? Not even sure if I really care at this point. I'll tell you though, my already high admiration for Grover has only been further elevated today in my e-mails with him. He's truly one of the good...

As can I. I've been in contact with Grover via e-mail today.

*chuckle* I think I need to add Grover Crisp to my Christmas card list this year...

Ha! Probably. Sorry, Ron! Been a long, busy day. ;)

I appreciate that, Robert, but don't remove him on my account. Look, I understand that tempers can flare. I'm sure Jarod is a good guy. It's up to you, but personally I'd give him a chance to stay if he wants it. I have no hard feelings towards him. That said, I do appreciate your efforts to...

Well... this is exactly what I'm talking about. By the way, Peter Bracke and I are friends and continue to have the greatest respect for one another.

Sensitive? No, more like a little disappointed in the online home theatre community in general. Maybe a little embarassed to be associated with it. As others have said, I have as much right as anyone to chime in given my history in the community and with this particular issue. I've been on top...

Interesting choice of words. Ignorance. I believe you're the one judging the quality of discs you haven't even seen. As for "the ability to be objective", I've been reviewing movies on disc since 1991. I won't even mention Robert's qualifications, which are legendary. Nor those of all the others...

Hey, it made me laugh. ;) The reality is, you're right: At this point anyone who is convinced either way is unlikely to change their minds. Peter Jackson himself could weigh in personally and people on these forums (well, maybe not HTF, but certainly elsewhere) would call him an idiot to his...

I have a very strong feeling that when the discs actually arrive on store shelves, the vast majorty of consumers are going to be overwhelmingly happy with them, and that even a majority of expert enthusiasts are going to wonder what all the fuss was about. And, of course, those who have...

Okay, fine. That wasn't in his review. Anyway, I'm not going to keep going back and forth on this. We're splitting hairs. People are going to get the discs and make of this what they will.

No. From his review: "However, it isn't nearly as unsettling a change in motion as it might appear in screenshots cropping up across the internet." He goes on to say: "As to my score, I danced around a 4.0 throughout the film; again, working under the current assumption that the color...

This is essentially what Robert and I have been saying. This was my exact reaction to seeing the discs myself. I was horrified by the screencaps before I got the discs. But upon getting and viewing the discs, that's just not what I'm seeing. There are color timing changes here and there, yes...

You are wise, dpippel! This has been my approach as well. Believe me, when I saw the screenshots, I was also concerned. In fact, I was horrified. But when I got the actual discs in hand, my final feeling is that many of the screenshots are just not fully representative of the actual disc...

I just wanted to re-emphazise one point. Just because - in your opinion - I didn't take the issue seriously enough in my review, doesn't mean I didn't take the issue very seriously. I took the rare step - several days before I even had the final product in hand - of informing the appropriate...

Very kind of you, Ron. As you know, I've always personally appreciated your friendship, not to mention the long ties we've had between HTF and The Bits, and continue to do so. On the subject of people treating each other online in a respectful and polite manner... I think it's just a sign...

Your hostility exemplifies what I'm talking about. Nevertheless, "keep my beat sweetened"? One of the reasons I have so many industry connections is because people know I'm not going to post everything they say on some discussion forum. That gives them the comfort space to talk with me honestly...

Because I'm talking with people involved.

I'd like to take a moment to address this "gloss over the changes" comment, which I presume was directed at me. There seems to be no shortage of hostility that I've "glossed" the subject over, that somehow I'm towing the studio line, that I phoned in the review, that I couldn't possibly have...

Ha! No matter how this turns out, it's certainly been fascinating...

Just read the Blu-ray.com review and I think he's done a good job addressing all the issues, including the color controversy. One thing I can add is that I now know that cinematographer reviewed and approved check discs for the set - not just the initial masters. So everything I've seen and...

No. Again, the photo was ONLY meant to illustrate that there's a clear, visible difference between what I'm experiencing on the actual disc and what's posted in these screenshots. It wasn't meant to illustrate color accuracy of either image or anything else. Still, just from brightness alone...