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*** Official 2008 Oscars Nominations List and Forum Discussion Thread


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#1 of 196 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted January 21 2008 - 09:21 PM



With thanks to HTF member Adam S

Best Picture
'Atonement'
'Juno'
'Michael Clayton'
'No Country for Old Men'
'There Will Be Blood'

Best Director
Julian Schnabel, 'The Diving Bell and the Butterfly'
Jason Reitman, 'Juno'
Tony Gilroy, 'Michael Clayton'
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, 'No Country for Old Men'
Paul Thomas Anderson, 'There Will Be Blood'

Best Actor
George Clooney, 'Michael Clayton'
Daniel Day-Lewis, 'There Will Be Blood'
Johnny Depp, 'Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street'
Tommy Lee Jones, 'In the Valley of Elah'
Viggo Mortensen, 'Eastern Promises'

Best Actress
Cate Blanchett, 'Elizabeth: The Golden Age'
Julie Christie, 'Away From Her'
Marillon Cotillard, 'La Vie en Rose'
Laura Linney, 'The Savages'
Ellen Page, 'Juno'

Best Supporting Actor
Casey Affleck, 'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'
Javier Barden, 'No Country for Old Men'
Phililp Seymour Hoffman, 'Charlie Wilson's War'
Hal Holbrook, 'Into the Wild'
Tom Wilkinson, 'Michael Clayton'

Best Supporting Actress
Cate Blanchett, 'I'm Not There'
Ruby Dee, 'American Gangster'
Saiorse Ronan, 'Atonement'
Amy Ryan, 'Gone Baby Gone'
Tilda Swinton, 'Michael Clayton'

Best Foreign Film
'Beaufort' (Israel)
'Counterfeiters' (Austria)
'Katyn' (Poland)
'Mongol' (Kazakhstan)
'12' (Russia)

Best Original Screenplay
Diablo Cody, 'Juno'
Nancy Oliver, 'Lars and the Real Girl'
Tony Gilroy, 'Michael Clayton'
Brad Bird, 'Ratatouille'
Tamara Jenkins, 'The Savages'

Best Adapted Screenplay
Christopher Hampton, 'Atonement'
Sarah Polley, 'Away From Her'
Ronald Harwood, 'The Diving Bell and the Butterfly'
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, 'No Country for Old Men'
Paul Thomas Anderson, 'There Will Be Blood'

Best Animated Feature Film
'Persepolis'
'Ratatouille'
'Surf's Up'

Best Art Direction
'American Gangster'
'Atonement'
'The Golden Compass'
'Sweeney Todd The Demon Barber of Fleet Street'
'There Will Be Blood'

Best Cinematography
'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'
'Atonement'
'The Diving Bell and the Butterfly'
'No Country for Old Men'
'There Will Be Blood'

Best Makeup
'La Vie en Rose'
'Norbit'
'Pirates of the Caribbean'

Best Original Score
'Atonement'
'Kite Runner'
'Michael Clayton'
'Ratatouille'
'3:10 to Yuma'

Best Original Song
'Falling Slowly - Once'
'Happy Working Song - Enchanted'
'Raise it Up - August Rush'
'So Close - Enchanted'
'That's How You Know - Enchanted'

Best Animated Short Film
'I met the Walrus'
'Madame Tutli Putli'
'My Love'
'Peter and the Wolf'

Best Live Action Short
'At Night'
'Il Supplente'
'Le Mozart de Pickpockets'
'Tanghi Argentini'
'Tonto Woman'

Best Film Editing
'The Bourne Ultimatum'
'The Diving Bell and the Butterfly'
'Into the Wild'
'No Country for Old Men'
'There Will Be Blood'

Best Sound Editing
'Bourne Ultimatum'
'No Country for Old Men'
'Ratatouille'
'There Will be Blood'
'Transformers'

Best Sound Mixing
'Bourne Ultimatum'
'No Country for Old Men'
'Ratatouille'
'3:10 to Yuma'
'Transformers'

Best Visual Effects
'The Golden Compass'
'Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End'
'Transformers'

 

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#2 of 196 OFFLINE   JonZ

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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:08 AM

My picks for who'll win......

Best film
Atonement
No Country Old Men
(I can see Atonement winning. Though I havetn seen it yet, it seems like the type of film that can and has been picked before)


Leading actor
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood
(This is a sure thing)



Supporting actor
Javier Bardem - No Country for Old Men
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton
(I think Javier will win, but you never know)


Director
No Country For Old Men - Joel Coen/Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson
(Gut tells me PTA will win this)


Original screenplay
Juno - Diablo Cody
The Lives of Others - Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
Michael Clayton - Tony Gilroy
(Prob Michael Clayton. I thought the film was just good, not great)


Adapted screenplay
Atonement - Christopher Hampton
No Country for Old Men - Joel Coen/Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson


Animated film
Ratatouille

#3 of 196 OFFLINE   Chuck Mayer

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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:23 AM

There are films I like on the nom list, but it's tough to generate any real enthusiasm this year. Even to guess at winners. Without the director nod, I have trouble seeing Atonement beat No Country, though I could see dark horse Michael Clayton walking away with some wins.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:24 AM

Congratulations to Ruby Dee for a Best Supporting Actress nomination for her work in American Gangster! A great surprise, and very well deserving!

"And now the reprimand, from an American critic. He reproaches me for using film as a sacred & lasting medium, like a painting or a book. He does not believe that filmmaking is an inferior art, but he believes, and quite rightly, that a reel goes quickly, that the public are looking above all for relaxation, that film is fragile and that it is pretentious to express the power of one's soul by such ephemeral and delicate means, that Charlie Chaplin's or Buster Keaton's first films can only be seen on very rare and badly spoiled prints. I add that the cinema is making daily progress and that eventually films that we consider marvelous today will soon be forgotten because of new dimensions & colour. This is true. But for 4 weeks this film [The Blood of a Poet] has been shown to audiences that have been so attentive, so eager & so warm, that I wonder after all there is not an anonymous public who are looking for more than relaxation in the cinema." - Jean Cocteau, 1932


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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:25 AM

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Into the Wild snubbed across the big categories. Woohoo.

But it's so great that Hal Holbrook is nominated. What a fantastic performance.

#6 of 196 OFFLINE   Patrick Sun

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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:39 AM

Just my quick thoughts:

Atonement's BP chances are dead in the water with no Editing nomination. But Joe Wright got jobbed out of a Director's nomination (I'd put him in over Jason Reitman). It's looking like a 2-horse race between No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood for BP, director, adapted screenplay. (but I think No Country for Old Men sweeps all 3, maybe PTA gets best director, but doubtful).

DDL is a shoo-in for Best Actor (though it looks like Emile Hirsch got snubbed over Tommy Lee Jones).

Javier Bardem is a shoo-in for Best Supporting Actor

Julie Christie and Marion Cotillard are the 2 frontrunning Best Actress noms (Angelina Jolie got snubbed).

Amy Ryan and Tilda Swinton are the frontrunners for Best Supporting Actress noms.
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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:44 AM

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Atonement's BP chances are dead in the water with no Editing nomination. But Joe Wright got jobbed out of a Director's nomination (I'd put him in over Jason Reitman).

Agreed. Not only does it have no editing nom, but I believe only two films have won BP without a directing nom (Grand Hotel, Driving Miss Daisy), so it's a VERY long shot.

I'm surprised Wright got snubbed and Reitman got a nomination. I was expecting Penn or Wright. I would be surprised at Gilroy's nom if it wasn't for the DGA.

"And now the reprimand, from an American critic. He reproaches me for using film as a sacred & lasting medium, like a painting or a book. He does not believe that filmmaking is an inferior art, but he believes, and quite rightly, that a reel goes quickly, that the public are looking above all for relaxation, that film is fragile and that it is pretentious to express the power of one's soul by such ephemeral and delicate means, that Charlie Chaplin's or Buster Keaton's first films can only be seen on very rare and badly spoiled prints. I add that the cinema is making daily progress and that eventually films that we consider marvelous today will soon be forgotten because of new dimensions & colour. This is true. But for 4 weeks this film [The Blood of a Poet] has been shown to audiences that have been so attentive, so eager & so warm, that I wonder after all there is not an anonymous public who are looking for more than relaxation in the cinema." - Jean Cocteau, 1932


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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:46 AM

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(I can see Atonement winning. Though I havetn seen it yet, it seems like the type of film that can and has been picked before)
Your view may change once you've seen it. It's the kind of film that gets nominated but doesn't win.

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#9 of 196 OFFLINE   Marc Colella

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Posted January 22 2008 - 01:49 AM

Great to see PTA get his nominations.

DDL is a lock.

Glad Sarah Polley got a nomination.

I feel sorry for Gordon Pinsent. He's been snubbed at every award and I think he was even better than Julie Christie in Away From Her.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:02 AM

the funny thing about Atonement, There Will be Blood and No Country for Old Men is that they all have third acts that turn people off a movie they were pretty passionate about watching the first two parts of it. which makes the race interesting for Juno and Michael Clayton.

I don't think Atonement is totally dead, but it is pretty much dead. on the other hand. Rules, like that a BP winner must have an editing nomination, are made to be broken.

Julian Shnable could very well become the first director to win without a best picture nomination. though I imagine the coen brothers may very well be awarded a career oscar or PTA could be acknowledged. but if the academy sees the film, few voters will be able to not vote for him. Highly likely to win editing as well.

Best Actor is a foregone conclusion for Day Lewis (unless there's major backlash...)
as is best Supporting Actor (can't imagine a backlash against Bardem)
Cate Blanchett is probably walking away easy with the Supporting actress trophy, though anyone could legitimately win this
Leading actress, it's Julie Christie's to lose

Ratatouille will probably win Animated film easily, no Spirited Away situation this year for persepolis.

Atonement will probably win best score

Elizabeth best costume design.

I don't think any other category is especially predictable.
 

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:11 AM

Just wondering why the previous thread was closed because it covered ALL awards not just the Oscars!

The previous thread should have been kept open for the other awards and a new thread started just for the Academy Awards, IMHO.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:13 AM

I was surprised THE SIMPSONS MOVIE wasn't nominated instead of SURF'S UP. It got great reviews, was a huge hit, and being 2-D animation, not the norm lately.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:15 AM

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Julian Shnable could very well become the first director to win without a best picture nomination.
This isn't quite true, though you have to go waaay back to show otherwise.

- Lewis Milestone won "Comedy" director in the Award's first year (1927-28) for the un-nominated for BP "Two Arabian Knights" (King Vidor won the "Drama" directing award in the only year they were split).

- Frank Lloyd won director for the un-nominated for BP "The Divine Lady" (1928-29).

"And now the reprimand, from an American critic. He reproaches me for using film as a sacred & lasting medium, like a painting or a book. He does not believe that filmmaking is an inferior art, but he believes, and quite rightly, that a reel goes quickly, that the public are looking above all for relaxation, that film is fragile and that it is pretentious to express the power of one's soul by such ephemeral and delicate means, that Charlie Chaplin's or Buster Keaton's first films can only be seen on very rare and badly spoiled prints. I add that the cinema is making daily progress and that eventually films that we consider marvelous today will soon be forgotten because of new dimensions & colour. This is true. But for 4 weeks this film [The Blood of a Poet] has been shown to audiences that have been so attentive, so eager & so warm, that I wonder after all there is not an anonymous public who are looking for more than relaxation in the cinema." - Jean Cocteau, 1932


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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:17 AM

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Just wondering why the previous thread was closed because it covered ALL awards not just the Oscars!

Marianne,

Sorry about that. I wanted to steer discussion to this thread.

Any suggestions what we can do to remedy the situation?

 

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:19 AM

[8] No Country for Old Men
Picture
Director
Supporting Actor
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Editing
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing

[8] There Will Be Blood
Picture
Director
Actor
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Editing
Art Direction
Sound Editing

[7] Atonement
Picture
Supporting Actress
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Art Direction
Costume Design
Original Score

[7] Michael Clayton
Picture
Director
Actor
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Original Screenplay
Original Score

[5] Ratatouille
Animated Film
Original Screenplay
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Original Score

[4] The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Director
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Editing

[4] Juno
Picture
Director
Actress
Original Screenplay

[3] The Bourne Ultimatum
Editing
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing

[3] Enchanted
Original Song x3

[3] Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Actor
Art Direction
Costume

[3] Transformers
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Visual Effects

[3] La Vie en Rose
Actress
Costume Design
Makeup

[2] 3:10 to Yuma
Sound Mixing
Original Score

[2] American Gangster
Supporting Actress
Art Direction

[2] The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Supporting Actor
Cinematography

[2] Away from Her
Actress
Adapted Screenplay

[2] Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Actress
Costume Design

[2] The Golden Compass
Art Direction
Visual Effects

[2] Into the Wild
Supporting Actor
Editing

[2] Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Makeup
Visual Effects

[2] The Savages
Actress
Original Screenplay
 

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:21 AM

bah, very few posts not by me at the other thread anyway, it covered all awards but there was minimal discussion. This is probably less confusing.

best director winning: wow. I had no idea that they'd won without BP nominations. but bP was wierd those first three-four ceremonies, so it's not quite as surprising.

I would pick There Will be Blood to win at this point (the only one I've not seen) it's score was DQed at the last second by the notoriously cranky Music division (can't allow rockstars to write 'our' music) and I think the Art Direction nomination is more significant than the sound one that No Country got in it's place. It's a very thin margin and it could go in any of five directions at this point, though i think Michael Clayton is probably the least likely to win the BP.

4 of the 10 screenplay nominations were written by women. That's awesome.
Most nominations ever for a Pixar film (tying Aladdin for second for most nominations for an animated films)
Roger Deakens is the first person in a very long time to receive two cinematography nominations in one year. And probably the only time it has happened when limited to only five choices (there were periods when there were more nominees or separate color and BW categories)
Ruby Dee garners two trivia bits, shortest performance/screentime ever nominated and second oldest female nominee.
Hal Holbrook is the oldest male nominee
Roger Deakens has never won and now has 7 nominations in cinematography with 57% of those coming from Coen Brothers films: Fargo, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Man Who Wasn't There and No Country for Old Men (his other nominations were Kundun, Shawshank Redemption and Assassination of Jesse James)
 

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:25 AM

Big props to Brad Bird and Pixar for Ratatouille. I cannot remember an animated feature with so many nominations in different categories (Beauty and the Beast had 6 but 3 were in the Original Song category). Well deserved recognition for the reigning king of animation.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:46 AM

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Marianne,

Sorry about that. I wanted to steer discussion to this thread.

Any suggestions what we can do to remedy the situation?


Can you reopen the other thread and change the title to something like:

Official 2007 Awards Discussion Thread (not Oscars)

Or whatever you think would keep the 2 threads from getting mixed up.

Thanks, Marianne.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:50 AM

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bah, very few posts not by me at the other thread anyway, it covered all awards but there was minimal discussion. This is probably less confusing.

The people who took the time to post all the nominations lists for the various awards might disagree with you. Also it had 1,925 views and 83 posts.

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Posted January 22 2008 - 02:54 AM

An interesting set of noms to cap off an interesting year. My thoughts, for what it's worth (which is not much):

BP: First off, let me say these are 5 damn good films. One of Oscar's best final groups, IMO. Right now, I think it's NCfOM's to lose. Atonement is very weak without the other noms (Editing, Director, Actress) to support it. TWbB is a cantakerous masterpiece that will likely not get much support among the Academy's older, more conservative voters. MC is obviously a much-admired film, and a stellar example of old-school Hollywood craftsmanship. But in the end, it doesn't scream "Best Picture". That leaves Juno, which is ironically the "dark horse" here, because in a group of very dark films it is the one ray of light. But in the end, I think the film that is the best of 2007 (IMO), No Country For Old Men, takes it.

Actor: I was glad to see the (deserved) noms for Mortensen & Jones, but this is Lewis' all the way.

Actress: I love Cate, but she should not have been nominated for E:TGA. It was an overripe performance in an overripe film. I would have preferred to see Amy Adams here for her luminous turn in Enchanted. Oh well, makes no difference, as this will surely go to Christie.

Supp. Actor: This is a strong, strong field. Gotta go with Bardem, but Holbrook could play spoiler.

Supp. Actress: No surprises here. The race is between Ryan and Blanchett. Let's go with Ryan.

Director: Gotta go with the Coens here. Anderson is IMO the most likely spoiler.

Animated: What the hell is Surf's Up doing here?? It's just cannon fodder for the other two. Ratatouille will cook up a win here.

Score: A big Posted Image to the Music branch for NOT nominating Jonny Greenwood's brilliant score for There Will Be Blood. (I now understand it was DQ'd at the last minute. My Posted Image stands.) The race here is probably between Ratatouille & Atonement, with the latter likely taking the prize.

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