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#1 of 22 oscar_merkx

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Posted July 04 2007 - 07:55 PM

http://www.dailymail...ce/prince4.html

Very interesting indeed.

Prince has imo always been a maverick performer starting when he fought WB re his name etc.

Along with David Bowie, I really believe he knew what the internet potential would be and has done really well.

Here are some other articles relating to his promotion of giving away his latest album via a national newspapers.

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Prince is launching his new Planet Earth album as a free giveaway with a national Sunday newspaper in a move that has drawn widespread condemnation from music retailers.

The 10-track CD will be available free with an "imminent" edition of the newspaper. Planet Earth will then go on sale on July 24.

"It's all about giving music for the masses and he believes in spreading the music he produces to as many people as possible," said Mail on Sunday managing director Stephen Miron.

"This is the biggest innovation in newspaper promotions in recent times."

The paper will be ramping up its print run in anticipation of a huge spike in circulation but would not reveal how much the deal with Prince would cost.

One music store executive described the plan as "madness" while others said it was a huge insult to an industry battling fierce competition from supermarkets and online stores.

Prince's label broke off ties in the UK with the album in a bid to appease music stores.

The Entertainment Retailers Association (ERA) said the giveaway "beggars belief".

"It would be an insult to all those record stores who have supported Prince throughout his career," ERA co-chairman Paul Quirk told a music conference.

"It would be yet another example of the damaging covermount culture which is destroying any perception of value around recorded music.

"The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behaviour like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores.

"And I say that to all the other artists who may be tempted to dally with the Mail on Sunday." High street music giant HMV was similarly scathing about the plans. Speaking before rumours of a giveaway were confirmed, HMV chief executive Simon Fox said: "I think it would be absolutely nuts."

"I can't believe the music industry would do it to itself. I simply can't believe it would happen, it would be absolute madness."

Prince, whose Purple Rain sold more than 11m copies, also plans to give away a free copy of his latest album with each ticket sold for his upcoming string of concerts in London.

The singer had signed a global deal as well for the promotion and distribution of Planet Earth in partnership with Columbia Records, a division of music company Sony BMG.

A spokesman for the group said tonight that the UK arm of Sony BMG had withdrawn from Prince's global deal and would not be distributing the album to UK stores.

"We think it is the right thing to do in the difficult retail market," he said. "We are delighted Prince has come back to a major label but this makes sense for the UK."

The Mail on Sunday, owned by Associated Newspapers, has built up a reputation for music giveaways and this is not the first time it has drawn harsh criticism.

It most recently clashed with musician Mike Oldfield over the giveaway of his album Tubular Bells.

Still, the paper maintains that its covermount CDs of artists such as Simply Red, Madness and Dolly Parton stimulate interest in music and it has asked retailers to look at partnerships.

"The Mail on Sunday is the biggest distributor of albums in this country," said Mr Miron. "We are saying to retailers we would be happy to engage in dialogue."

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#2 of 22 Dan Keefe

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Posted July 04 2007 - 09:05 PM

I like the fact that the record industry is freaking out about the giveaway...They are really reaching for straws when they say "what about the loyalty to all the record stores that carried his music for years?" I damn near spit out my milk when I read that. When will they realize that they no longer wield the power they did back in the 80s?

Good for Prince...He is truly an amazing musician and I hope there is a tour to support this album...I also wish I could get it for free as well, just so I could listen to it now.

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Posted July 04 2007 - 09:30 PM

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Good for Prince...He is truly an amazing musician and I hope there is a tour to support this album...I also wish I could get it for free as well, just so I could listen to it now.

Hi Dan

Please PM me and I'll see what I can do 4 U.

He's performing a mininum of 15 concerts in London throughout August & September.

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#4 of 22 Jerry Almeida

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Posted July 04 2007 - 11:41 PM

I've been a Prince fan since the 80's and have been lucky enough to see him preform when he came to Tampa a few years ago on his Musicology tour. I think he's an amazing musician and respect the way he "does his own thing'. He has the means, and the balls, to distribute his art the way he pleases and that has to be admired.

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Posted July 05 2007 - 06:51 AM

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I like the fact that the record industry is freaking out about the giveaway...They are really reaching for straws when they say "what about the loyalty to all the record stores that carried his music for years?" I damn near spit out my milk when I read that. When will they realize that they no longer wield the power they did back in the 80s?

Good for Prince...He is truly an amazing musician and I hope there is a tour to support this album...I also wish I could get it for free as well, just so I could listen to it now.

Yeah, you gotta love that "it's an insult" line to all the record stores who have "supported" him thru the years.

One of them should have at least had the guts to drop all that self righteous nonsense and just say "damnit, we're going to lose money".
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Posted July 05 2007 - 08:24 AM

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Posted July 09 2007 - 09:07 AM

I saw him this past weekend and it was one of the best shows I've ever been to. It was so great getting to see both Wendy and Sheila E

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Posted July 10 2007 - 06:30 AM

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is he still alive ?
lol, where have you been? His last album, 3121, was his first #1 album since 1989.

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Posted July 11 2007 - 05:14 AM

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Posted July 15 2007 - 04:09 AM

I love the record stores getting upset over this- certainly if Prince creates an album and wants to give it away, that's his option.

He doesn't have to record at all, so what's the difference as far as the stores' chance to make a profit? Plus, how much are stores still making on his previous albums?

I don't think he's successful because of support from stores, but because people like his stuff. The store was just where you had to go to buy the music in the past.

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Posted July 15 2007 - 04:34 AM

I am pretty pleased that I got the album, several times over

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Posted July 15 2007 - 05:20 AM

It is all well and good to give an album away but is it any good?

I have been a Prince fan for 2+ decades now, have seen him several times and am an ardent admirer of his talent and musical ability but the guy has produced some dogs in his day.

My name is Prince anyone? or Lovesexy? How about Around the world in a day? there are quite a few from his symbol days that are absolute crap (probably because of the dispute with Warners).

Most of the recent stuff is pretty good although I liked Musicology better than 3121 but that is personal preference more than musical criticism.

So is Planet Earth any good? Would love to know.

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Posted July 15 2007 - 06:02 AM

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It is all well and good to give an album away but is it any good?

I have been a Prince fan for 2+ decades now, have seen him several times and am an ardent admirer of his talent and musical ability but the guy has produced some dogs in his day.

My name is Prince anyone? or Lovesexy? How about Around the world in a day? there are quite a few from his symbol days that are absolute crap (probably because of the dispute with Warners).

Most of the recent stuff is pretty good although I liked Musicology better than 3121 but that is personal preference more than musical criticism.

So is Planet Earth any good? Would love to know.

Dave

people only dislike Lovesexy because it was a sales flop. I think it's generally been agreed upon in recent years that it's part of his canon of 1980's masterpieces. Same with Around The World In A Day, disliked because it followed up Purple Rain, but on it's own merits, a hell of an album.

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Posted July 17 2007 - 03:09 AM

Still a free country and I am entitled to my opinion - Around the world in a day is not one of my favorites. I like Raspberry Beret and maybe one or two more and that is about it. Pop life was decent.

I agree that it was a very experimental album but being experimental don't make it good.

Lovesexy - admittedly I have not listened to it in years but I recall the CD was just one big song, no breaks so you had to listen to it all or fast forward to the song you liked and my 1985 cd player didn't have fast forward, just skip so I had to sit through the whole thing to get to some of the stuff I liked. I even went to see the Lovesexy tour (and enjoyed it). But I do not recall liking a lot of the ablum. I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

I notice that nobody is defending "my name is Prince", not very surprising.

HOwever, my question was is Planet Earth any good not whether Prince has produced some dogs...

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Posted July 17 2007 - 05:05 AM

Prince is absolutely one of the best artists of the last three decades and I don't like some of his stuff and just love a lot of it. He can release nothing but dogs and he is still going down as one of the greatest popular musicians ever. Why he is recording an album and giving it away isn't clear, but the guy is really strange, maybe all geniuses are?

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Posted July 17 2007 - 09:56 AM

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I notice that nobody is defending "my name is Prince", not very surprising.

Okay, so I'll defend it. "0+>" - the album that includes the song "My Name Is Prince" - is a strong piece of work. In fact, I'd argue it's Prince's last GOOD album. He's been up and down since but hasn't produced one album that's consistently pretty positive from start to finish. I think this one's a quality album...
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Posted July 17 2007 - 11:08 AM

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Lovesexy - admittedly I have not listened to it in years but I recall the CD was just one big song, no breaks so you had to listen to it all or fast forward to the song you liked and my 1985 cd player didn't have fast forward, just skip so I had to sit through the whole thing to get to some of the stuff I liked. I even went to see the Lovesexy tour (and enjoyed it). But I do not recall liking a lot of the ablum. I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

I hope that one of these days when Prince's stuff gets remastered, that they fix this with Lovesexy. I used a CD ripper and separated the tracks myself, makes it so much easier instead of having to sift through 30 mins to get to I Wish U Heaven or go through stuff to get to Anna Stesia.

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Posted July 18 2007 - 03:39 AM

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I hope that one of these days when Prince's stuff gets remastered, that they fix this with Lovesexy. I used a CD ripper and separated the tracks myself, makes it so much easier instead of having to sift through 30 mins to get to I Wish U Heaven or go through stuff to get to Anna Stesia.

If Prince controls the remasters, why would it be "fixed"? It was his decision, not a mistake. Maybe he'll change his mind and think it was a silly choice, but it's not like it was an accident...
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Posted July 18 2007 - 06:26 AM

there are foreign editions of the album that are tracked, and they always do well on ebay, so apparently there is definately an audience out there for people who want Lovesexy, but not as one continuous track


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