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#81 of 97 OFFLINE   jimmyjet

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Posted February 15 2014 - 09:54 PM

dont know what you mean by bad ?

 

i hope you arent insinuating that not having rude language in a movie makes it bad ?



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Posted February 15 2014 - 10:19 PM

i prefer to be able to watch with a kid or a date without worrying about the next instance i am gonna squirm in my seat.

 

some people in the movie industry seem to think they are creative by using the f-word, other foul language, and of course some sort of nudity.

 

i seem to think they are creative when they make a well-written show, causing me to think - and not having to resort to lesser means to get my attention.

 

i just wonder how many people who state that they like all this stuff in movies would want to watch it with their teenage daughter ?



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Posted February 15 2014 - 11:22 PM

i prefer to be able to watch with a kid or a date without worrying about the next instance i am gonna squirm in my seat.

some people in the movie industry seem to think they are creative by using the f-word, other foul language, and of course some sort of nudity.

i seem to think they are creative when they make a well-written show, causing me to think - and not having to resort to lesser means to get my attention.

i just wonder how many people who state that they like all this stuff in movies would want to watch it with their teenage daughter ?


So, you've never seen Bob Sagat in anything other than Full House?

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Posted February 16 2014 - 04:58 AM

So, you've never seen Bob Sagat in anything other than Full House?

I've also seen him hosting America's Funniest Home Videos and he was hilarious. Excuse me while I go watch his undoubtedly family friendly standup comedy.



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Posted February 16 2014 - 05:20 AM

i prefer to be able to watch with a kid or a date without worrying about the next instance i am gonna squirm in my seat.

 

some people in the movie industry seem to think they are creative by using the f-word, other foul language, and of course some sort of nudity.

 

i seem to think they are creative when they make a well-written show, causing me to think - and not having to resort to lesser means to get my attention.

 

i just wonder how many people who state that they like all this stuff in movies would want to watch it with their teenage daughter ?

 

Isn't this why movies are rated? You should pretty much know going into a movie is there's going to be things like that.

My daughters head never exploded from hearing curse words (as far as I know).



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Posted February 16 2014 - 07:43 AM

hi brandy,

 

yes, ratings do have something to do with that, for sure.

 

i sorta logged out of sports and entertainment after the 70s - not my cup of tea, on the average.

 

so some famous people have come and gone, without me knowing a thing about them.

 

but at least tv was still living up to old-fashioned standards.

 

not that i care what tv or cable does today - cuz i only watch stuff on discs.

 

as i said, i gave up on them a long time ago.



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Posted February 16 2014 - 05:07 PM

Wow. You truly do meet all kinds of people on the internet.

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Posted February 16 2014 - 09:39 PM

hi mcpaul,

 

i am the first to admit to being old-fashioned.

 

but you might be surprised at how many older people have tuned out or logged off from current events.

 

many, many older people find today's values to be like an armpit.

 

all ya gotta do is compare the shows that i grew up with (leave it to beaver, father knows best, bonanza, etc.) with what is out there now.



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Posted February 17 2014 - 10:27 AM

dont know what you mean by bad ?

 

i hope you arent insinuating that not having rude language in a movie makes it bad ?

 

Not at all. There are plenty of perfectly fine movies that don't use so-called "profanity." But they have something in common with good movies that use them: good scripts, good acting, good direction, good camerawork, good music, and good production values. I wouldn't want to see Bowdlerized versions of The Godfather or The Wolf of Wall Street anymore than I would like to see a pornographic version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Try watching the edited-for-TV version of Blazing Saddles one of these days and see if it still makes sense.

 

All I'm saying it is fundamentally immoral to restrict speech in such a fashion, especially in a country where the very First Amendment to the Constitution says Congress cannot pass laws regulating speech. No one is forcing anyone to use those words, but if you restrict their use, there's no limit to what other forms of speech you can restrict.


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Posted February 17 2014 - 11:39 AM

anymore than I would like to see a pornographic version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.


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Posted February 17 2014 - 01:32 PM

 I would like to see a pornographic version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

 

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Posted February 17 2014 - 05:39 PM

hi matthew,

 

i was never saying that i thought words should be restricted from use in a movie.

 

i am saying that i think the movie producer does not need to use them, for the most part.

 

but we were sorta talking about stuff on tv, where access is free.

 

i liked having the old standards for tv, at least when i was viewing tv.

 

the following is MY TASTE. 

 

i had to look up Bowdlerized - it specifically says stuff removed with the result that it becomes weaker or less effective.

 

i think we can start out in agreement with that general principle.  however, where we might start to differ is in whether "something" becomes weaker or less effective.

 

i also did not want to imply that i thought a movie was bad because it used profanity or nudity.  there is a very good chance that i would prefer to have the profanity or nudity removed, such that i would like it better.  but i would still call it a good movie.

 

i watched the dvd or blu-ray of saturday night fever.  i had seen it before on tv, and liked it.  but the actual movie had so much objectionable material to me that it definitely lowered my like of it.

 

usually though, i have complaints only about a few scenes perhaps.  for example, "scent of a woman" is a wonderful movie.  and i do not consider it to be an old movie.  there was some profanity, if i recall.  but the only scene that i wish would have been done just a hair differently is the conversation in the cab.  if you know the movie, you will know what i am referring to.  if i was with a girl, it would make me squirm in my seat.

 

and with newer movies, the worst thing for me, is not knowing when it may happen - sorta waiting for a time bomb to go off.

 

i partly watched the godfather when i was still in my 20s, i think.  i was so bored with it that i told my friends to watch till the end, and turn it off.  i went to sleep on the couch.  so i have almost no memory of anything specific about the movie.

 

for the most part, i do not need to hear profanity to "raise my anger quotient", so to speak.  i want it to be realistic, in the sense that i would not want to hear "oh darnit" if a person was really irritated.

 

but i also do not want to hear gd or f, at any time.  those 2 phrases are never desired by me.  they tend to take me away from the movie, and irritate me at the use of them.

 

i dont think i have ever used either of those 2 phrases in my entire life.  but believe me, you would have no problem knowing that i was angry with you, if i was !!

 

in any case, thanks for the pleasant exchanges.



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Posted February 17 2014 - 07:17 PM

hi mathew,

 

i am currently watching murder she wrote "school for scandal".

 

the pretty daughter is acting up, and trying to embarrass her mom.

 

first, everyone sees her skinny-dipping in the pool.  but they dont show the audience anything.  we get it by what the others say.

 

next, she has a fur coat on, and flashes the entire party group.  but we just see a big fur coat from the back.

 

in neither instance were naked body parts necessary for me to understand the situation.

 

some producers give stupid rationalizations about how they want to show exactly everything just the way it is, as if the audience is a bunch of morons that cant think for themselves.

 

when in actuality, all the producer really wanted to do was use some sexuality to get more viewers.



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Posted February 17 2014 - 07:48 PM

Seriously, if these networks have to censor stuff, why don't they just leave blank holes in the soundtrack? That way viewers unfamiliar with the original movies will know that something has been censored, rather than thinking that the screenwriters were idiots.



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Posted February 17 2014 - 08:07 PM

i do understand that complaint.

 

that is what they used to do.

 

they never changed the word.

 

that is what bleep meant, at least back then.

 

you got a bleep, instead of the dialogue - everyone knew it was censored.

 

in fact, when it did occur, everyone would guess what the word was that had been bleeped !!

 

sometimes people felt that the bleep was added when there was never a bad word to begin with !!!



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Posted February 18 2014 - 12:22 PM

and with newer movies, the worst thing for me, is not knowing when it may happen - sorta waiting for a time bomb to go off.

 

I completely agree with you about this. The PG-13 rating, which seems to be applied to the majority of movies released, is entirely useless. As a parent, there are PG-13 movies that I would have no problem letting my elementary-age child watch, and there are others that I wouldn't want him anywhere near.

 

http://www.kids-in-mind.com/ is a godsend.


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Posted February 18 2014 - 01:18 PM

It does seem kind of like a "badge of honor" that nearly every PG-13 film released today manages to cram in one "F" word somewhere (as the MPAA is on record as permitting one non-sexual use of the word in a PG-13 film). It's almost like it's a contractual requirement.

 

Language itself doesn't really bother me, but excessive use turns me off. This is why I avoid most Scorsese and Tarantino films. Heavy use of profanity doesn't add anything tangible to the film, and at a certain point just becomes a distraction.


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