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I AM AN IDIOT (Poker/Hold 'em Related, Rated "R" for foul language

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#1 of 32 OFFLINE   Brook K

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Posted June 17 2004 - 08:17 PM

I went to 'The Bicycle Casino' in East LA. It's basically just devoted to poker and other table card games, there are no slots, craps, roulette, etc. I signed up for the Limit hold 'em tournament, $25 buys you 200 in chips. You can "rebuy" 10=400, 20=800 for the first hour of the tournament. I only spent 10 to get an extra 400, but some guys spent 60 or 80 rebuying multiple time after losing their chips. (which really got annoying because some would raise alot or constantly preflop raise knowing if they lost they'd just buy more chips.)

Anyway, blinds start at 5/10 for the first 20m and then increase every 10m thereafter. I started slow, but started winning a few hands and at the break at the hour point, I had around 1800 in chips (remember I started with 600 so I'm feeling good). At the end of the break, they let everyone make one final buy-in $20 = 1000 chips, everyone was doing it so I did too, so my total money commitment to the tournament was $55 (I'd also lost $40 relatively quickly in the 45m or so before the tournament started playing at a $2/4 table. Yes I know I'm a lightweight)

After the break I go on a long drought, but then hit 3 good sized pots in 5-6 hands, 1 on AA that held up, 1 on 99 that turned into a full house, and I can't remember the other, anyway at the 2nd hour break, I had around 4500 chips. I don't know if I was chip leader at my table, but I was in the top 3 out of 9 at the table.

Ok, to set the stage further, I think there was 130-150 people in the tournament. They were paying to the top 18 (ranging from $90 for #16-18 up to $2500 for the winner). By the 2nd hour because of all the rebuying not very many people had gone out but with the blinds up to $75/$150, and still increasing players were going to start dropping fast. I play for awhile longer, but don't do much. Than the guy to my left starts getting hot and takes a couple of pots from me, my stack really dwindles when I bet deep into a pot holding JJ's but I never got any help on the table. I shouldn't have even played the hand because 3 J's came out on the last hand, and I don't like playing a hand that would have won the previous hand because I feel like the same winners aren't going to come out twice in a row. Anyway, I just couldn't fold JJ and played it and thanks to some guys raising I spent too much money and cut my stack in half. Several more hands + increasing blinds and I'm on my last legs.

With my last 600-700 I go all in before the flop holding 66's. It somehow turns into a flush when the dealer turns 4 diamonds on the table, and I'm back in the game with 2000+. I really slow play it for awhile but can't hit any hands and can't afford to stay in on shakey/or draw type hands and with blinds now at 250/500 I won't be able to hold on much longer.

Setting the table. It's been 2 hours 40m but feels like I've been there all night. I have 1600 left, blinds 250/500. I didn't have time to count, but there were 6 tables left, so I figure 45-55 players still in the tournament. Ok, here comes my Waterloo, a blunder of titanic proportions.

I'm dealt a KJ of clubs. I bet 500 to stay in the hand. Another player raises, so for me to meet the raise I'll only have 600 left. I decide to make my 2nd stand of the night, I raise 500, one player calls and the 2nd raises so I have to go all in. So now 3 of us have put in 1600, plus another 800 from the blinds so if I can pull this off I'm looking at 5600, not a huge stack with the blinds about to go 300/600, but enough that I could definitely stay in the game, either slow play long enough to hopefully finish in the money, or better yet win more hands and stay alive for the final table.

Back to the hand and blunder. Ok, I'm all in with KJ clubs. The flop comes 10 8 Q, one club, so I don't have any pair, but I'm looking at a decent straight draw and a longshot flush draw. 3 players are in the pot. I think the other two may have bet at this point, I don't remember since I was already all in. Ok, at this point I stand up (cause I did that on my other all in and it worked and because the TV guys usually do that Posted Image)

Ok, quick aside, there was a camera crew in the casino filming for a documentary. They did film our table at one point, so maybe I'll end up in a movie! Thankfully, I don't think they captured what is about to follow.

Ok, enough teasing. 4th street/the turn comes up a 6 of hearts. Bye bye flush draw and my straight draw chances just got a lot slimmer. I need an A or a 9 for the straight. The other two guys bet, or one bets and then the other thinks about it because here it COMES. At some point in the agonizing seconds while I'm waiting for the 5th card to be turned, I started rubbing the cusion edge of the table and said something like "come on give it to me", one of the guys at the table smiles at my comment and some force possessed me to turn my cards and show my hand so everyone could see what i needed to come out. And that was it. I didn't realize I'd done anything wrong, but a guy at the table instantly shouts, "He turned over his cards, his hand is dead" or something like that, and so it was.....



Now, who knows, there were still a lot of players that would have had to go out for me to win money, but I also know from all the times I've played on the 'net that surviving that long in a tournament doesn't happen all the time and you have to maximize when you get the chance. It was only about 9:50 or so, and I had planned to stay up late and keep playing after the tournament was over, but after bending over and fucking myself (without a reach around) I coudn't even think about playing any more. I just walked to my car in a daze. Then I realized I still had chips in my pocket from when I played before the tournament and I had to walk back in the #$%#$% casino to cash them in.

Right now I am quite possibly the dumbest man in Los Angeles County, which would put me in the running for dumbest worldwide.
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#2 of 32 OFFLINE   Ricardo C

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Posted June 17 2004 - 09:36 PM

Holy shit. That's all I got. Damn. Very sorry, man. But what the hell were you thinking???
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#3 of 32 OFFLINE   Jerry Almeida

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Posted June 17 2004 - 10:24 PM

I was anxious to read what your blunder was, in hopes that I could somehow justify the play for you and make you feel a little better.
Well after reading about it, sorry, I can't do that. Posted Image

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#4 of 32 ONLINE   Cees Alons

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Posted June 17 2004 - 11:23 PM

It's a psychological/social reaction. You were uncertain and were seeking for sympathy and understanding within the group.

Of course a group of alligators isn't exactly the best hug group in the world....



#5 of 32 OFFLINE   Julian Reville

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Posted June 18 2004 - 12:37 AM

Brook, is it? and you're from Georgia? Didn't your daddy teach you better? Poker is sacred, just like Coca-Cola, Moon Pies, and barbecue. You don't screw around with poker!

Posted Image Just kidding Posted Image

If it makes you feel any better, everyone has made stupid mistakes. Just be glad yours only involved money. For a good read check out "Have you earned your idiot badge?" on military.com. Most of these involve heavy camo-painted metal, ammo, or high explosives. I have one on there. Posted Image


#6 of 32 OFFLINE   CalvinCarr


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Posted June 18 2004 - 01:09 AM

What the????? Never ever show your cards unless you have to or someone pays to see them.

All I can say is...DUDE......Posted Image

#7 of 32 OFFLINE   SteveGon


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Posted June 18 2004 - 01:13 AM

Well, that's one dumb thing I haven't done. But give it time. Posted Image

But, what Cees said. So don't sweat it too much. Posted Image

#8 of 32 OFFLINE   Greg Dorsey

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Posted June 18 2004 - 02:47 AM

Better go back and read up on statistics Brook. Each round of cards dealt is independent of the previous hands. Superstitions are nothing more than irrational beliefs. Bummer about that final hand though.

#9 of 32 OFFLINE   Garrett Lundy

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Posted June 18 2004 - 03:14 AM

I don't know how to play poker, so i have really no idea about anything you were just talking about.

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#10 of 32 OFFLINE   Shane Martin

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Posted June 18 2004 - 03:21 AM

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Live and learn. Hopefully next time you'll take it to the next step and take home some cash. Although I've only played in some freebie tournaments, I've learned from those experiences. Something playing online can't teach you.

#11 of 32 OFFLINE   Seth Paxton

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Posted June 18 2004 - 03:37 AM

Wait a second, it's not really clear here to me. You turned over before the 3rd guy could see the other guy's bet (you were done betting being all-in of course)? If betting was done then they HAVE paid to see your cards, people show their hand before the river all the time, or even earlier if its just one guy matching someone's all-in bet. So the F-up was that you showed them just seconds before he made his choice I guess. In that case, yikes, very painful. Gambling is tough enough as it is with all the bad breaks, but when you screw up the lucky ones it really hurts. Stick to slots I guess. :P)

#12 of 32 OFFLINE   Shane Martin

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Posted June 18 2004 - 03:58 AM

From what I could tell the other 2 people were not all in thus Brook did not have to show his hand until after the last card was turned over.

#13 of 32 OFFLINE   CalvinCarr


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Posted June 18 2004 - 05:03 AM

From the end of the story one of the guy's was still thinking about his bet. If he shows his cards first then that guy can opt out. We play every Fri. $40.00 buy in and the first 3 people out can buy back in for $40.00.

I can't sugar coat it like the rest of them. WHAT THE F$%# DUDE? Posted Image

#14 of 32 OFFLINE   Dome Vongvises

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Posted June 18 2004 - 06:18 AM

No matter how smart of a person you may actually be or may actually think, never put yourself in a position that will expose a momentary lapse of reason. That's why I stay away from poker at the casino.

#15 of 32 OFFLINE   Lew Crippen

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Posted June 18 2004 - 08:23 AM

Sorry to hear about the momentary lapse Brook.

Regrettably the only way to learn to play poker is to lose money. Posted Image Theory, statistics, memory and the rest are all essential, but experience is more important.

I’m sure you are aware of the adage:

If you can’t spot the sucker(s) at the table, the sucker is you. Posted Image (Sorry, but I couldn’t resisit).

Still I would not be discouraged. In then end you only lost a couple of DVDs. And no doubt you will never make that mistake again (if you do, it is time to fold ‘em for good).
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#16 of 32 OFFLINE   SteveGon


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Posted June 18 2004 - 08:40 AM

Dome: you should come play in one of our Texas Hold 'Em tourneys - it ain't that far a drive. Kissinger, Hutman, and I will be happy to take your money.

#17 of 32 OFFLINE   Travis Hedger

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Posted June 18 2004 - 09:48 AM

Can someone explain the tournament concept to me? Is it a king of the hill type scenario? Everyone fighting their way to the top? Because if you are playing and have like over $3000 in chips, why not stop and call it a day? Or is it to play all in to make it to the final table with all that buy in cash? /usually stick to Omaha Hi/Lo
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#18 of 32 OFFLINE   Brook K

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Posted June 18 2004 - 02:41 PM

Thanks guys, at least I have a story now. Seth, one of the players had bet, and the other was considering what to do. Travis, in a tournament, the chips don't equate to $$. The money you win is based on the amount of entry fee's/rebuys and your placement in the tournament (in the one I described, the last 18 players were "in the money". You play at tables of 9-10 players and play proceeds as players are eliminated, until eventually only one remains. This was my first live tournament. I've played a lot on the internet and a moderate amount of live table play in St. Louis, and last April I played in Vegas.
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#19 of 32 OFFLINE   Shane Martin

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Posted June 18 2004 - 02:49 PM

You can't quit because the money you have is not real at this point. You need to place to win real money.

There are free no limit tournaments in Tulsa and OKC every day almost just as an FYI Travis. Http://www.freepokerok.com

#20 of 32 OFFLINE   Scott Tucker

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Posted June 18 2004 - 04:23 PM

I once got beat at The Bicycle Club too. I had Kings full and ended up being third best. The other two guys split the "bad beat jackpot." I lost $80 in the hand, and the other two guys split, are you ready for this... They split $100,000.00 cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate the Bike. Scott
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