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**** Official review thread: HTF REVIEW: The Godfather (part of The Godfather Collection)

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#1 of 90 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted October 04 2001 - 02:06 PM

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The Godfather

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#2 of 90 OFFLINE   Robert George

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Posted October 04 2001 - 02:31 PM


By far, The Godfather is a masterpiece
thar flows like fine Italian Wine. It stands
as a nearly flawless piece of filmmaking that
is as vivid today as it was nearly 30 years ago.



They don't get much better than this.

#3 of 90 OFFLINE   Dwayne


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Posted October 04 2001 - 02:46 PM

Although I am a little less excited by what I've been hearing, there is no way that I am going to pass these up. I have to admit that I am somewhat saddened that these films are in that bad of shape. But like I said, I could not pass on these in good conscience, as they are just too magnificent in cinematic storytelling.

I envy you, Ron. What I wouldn't give to watch The Godfather for the first time all over again. Posted Image


#4 of 90 OFFLINE   CRyan



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Posted October 04 2001 - 02:48 PM

Ahhh Man. Like I was wasn't already excited enough to have this in my collection. It will be wonderful to see these discs as intended. Now till Tuesday. Maybe I will get lucky tonight and find it early.

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#5 of 90 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted October 04 2001 - 03:11 PM


I had the opportunity to talk with Ron Smith, one
of the people responsible for the restoration. He
had told me how hard Paramount worked on that film
and how proud the restoration team was with the final

I'm pretty sure I met Ron Smith (along with Garrett and few others) at the May meet. Ron S. if I remember correctly, is first and foremost a film fan. If he and the restoration team really are proud of what they could do, then that's all we can really ask of them, given that they don't have unlimited resources to spend on the project.

I've never asked perfection from the people who work for me. I've just asked that they do the best they can with what they are given. I can live with the results.

Sure, the Godfather films won't look like The Matrix (which was too green Posted Image ), or even like Kane or NxNW. But if that's the best they could do, then I will live with it.

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#6 of 90 OFFLINE   Derek J

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Posted October 04 2001 - 03:42 PM

I just picked mine up this afternoon at this video store that sells DVD's up to five days before their release date. I paid $70.99 for it which is a pretty good price considering Amazon is selling it for $74.99. Unfortanately right now my Dad is watching Barry Bonds try to hit number 70 so I'll have to wait a little while until I see them.

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Posted October 04 2001 - 03:56 PM


Unfortanately right now my Dad is watching Barry Bonds try to hit number 70 so I'll have to wait a little while until I see them.


Make him an offer he can't refuse. Posted Image

#8 of 90 ONLINE   Robert Crawford

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Posted October 04 2001 - 04:27 PM

Ron, When I got back Sunday night from the "National Meet", I couldn't wait to get up on Monday morning knowing that I will be getting a package with "The Godfather" dvd collection. Sure enough, my doorbell rang at 9:30 a.m. and showtime was on...... I took care of "The Godfather" on Monday and "The Godfather Part II" on Tuesday while listening to Coppola's commentary on both films on Wednesday. I first read the novel back in 1970 and then saw the original theatrical release of the first film in 1972. Since then I've read the book twice more and seen both films numerous times in theaters and on various video formats. Watching these great films again on dvd got me in the mood to read the book again for the fourth time. As far as the dvd presentation goes they look very good considering the condition of the film elements and how these movies were filmed. Except for certain scenes that took place in Sicily, Nevada, and Cuba, most of the look of the film was pretty grim and dark. I am very happy with the dvd presentation, however, I'm sure others will have contrary views because of high expectations and comparisons to other classic film releases on dvd. Just remember that both movies were filmed in a way to look a certain way with alot of dark scenes. Crawdaddy ------------------ Peter Staddon: "I didn't say you can put 'Monkeybone' back!" [Edited last by Robert Crawford on October 04, 2001 at 07:29 PM]

#9 of 90 OFFLINE   RonR


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Posted October 04 2001 - 07:40 PM

Having never seen any of the movies I can't wait till Tuesday!

#10 of 90 OFFLINE   SteveGon


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Posted October 04 2001 - 08:03 PM

Darn it! I want these movies. But I'm trying to save some money. Oh heck, you know where I'll be next Tuesday... Posted Image

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#11 of 90 OFFLINE   bill lopez

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Posted October 04 2001 - 08:08 PM

Dang! So it looks like these dvd's are not going to look better than the widescreen laserdiscs from a few years ago.

#12 of 90 OFFLINE   Reginald Trent

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Posted October 04 2001 - 08:31 PM

The Godfather is the best gangster movie of all time. PERIOD! BTW Good review Ron.

#13 of 90 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 04 2001 - 09:18 PM


Dang! So it looks like these dvd's are not going to look better than the widescreen laserdiscs from a few years ago.

[quote] I just finished watching the first film, and it looks considerably better than the last LD incarnation. In fact, I think the only reason people are so aware of the print flaws is because the rest of the image is so strikingly vivid.

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#14 of 90 OFFLINE   GerardC



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Posted October 04 2001 - 11:30 PM

Indeed, there were a lot of scenes that simply look fantastic and this makes a couple of the grainy shots and artefacts stand out. I did notice that the moments the picture didn't look so hot was mostly when a new 'chapter' was introduced (the first scenes of the wedding, the opening shot of LA as Tom Hagen goes to see Woltz, the opening shot of Sicily etc): any method in this (start of a reel or something)? But this is a terrific transfer and it fully captures the warm colours from the original movie. Well done, and given the wealth of material on offer this box set has risen straight to #1 on my personal dvd favourites list.

#15 of 90 OFFLINE   Frank L

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Posted October 05 2001 - 03:03 AM


I must give credit to Peter Bracke of DVDFILE
for the first review of The Godfather Collection on DVD


Hey... I thought I gave the first review of The Godfather on DVD, however informal it was... Posted Image


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#16 of 90 OFFLINE   Michael Dueppen

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Posted October 05 2001 - 03:14 AM

Great review, Ron.
I have never seen these movies entirely yet. This will be another one of the many classics I will experience for the first time on DVD. With a little luck my copy of the collection will be here tomorrow (and French Connection 2-pack, which I have never seen as well).
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#17 of 90 OFFLINE   Michael Lee

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Posted October 05 2001 - 04:26 AM

It is definitely better than my memory of the LD counterparts.

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#18 of 90 OFFLINE   Rich Malloy

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Posted October 05 2001 - 07:05 AM

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Posted October 06 2001 - 08:15 AM

I still have my THX laserdiscs of GF1 & GF2 handy and was able to pick up the DVDs yesterday (never mind how! Posted Image). I've only had time to sample GF1, but from that, it was evident that the DVD is a considerable improvement over the laserdisc for the obvious reasons (anamorphic enhancement, reduced chroma noise/improved stability, presence of extras). The transfers are otherwise very similar, which is generally a good thing.

The audio sounded better to my ears than the DD tracks from the laserdisc. I had actually preferred the PCM pro-logic tracks on the laserdiscs to the DD5.1 because the DD track made the inherent flaws in the soundtrack sound even more harsh. Whether due to increased bitrate or a sweetened mix, the DD5.1 tracks on the DVD are a marked improvement. The quality of the dialog tracks is still occasionally incongruous with the quality of the music and effects tracks, but this has been the case since the first stereo re-mix for the 25th anniversary release.

In short, Ron's assessment is on the money, the GF1 DVD is noticeably improved over the laserdisc, and the look of the film has not been drastically altered in any way.


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#20 of 90 OFFLINE   Alex Shk

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Posted October 06 2001 - 08:34 AM

All of this is welcome news. The Godfather is the first DVD "box set" I have ordered, and according to my calculations, should hit my doorstep Monday. I was not expecting a visual experience on the order of "5th Element", or an aural experience along the lines of "Saving Private Ryan". All I want to know is - is this the best this film has looked and sounded since it's original theatrical release. If it is - I will be beyond happy. ------------------

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