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#1 of 3783 Thi Them

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Posted January 21 2003 - 08:17 AM

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In 2002, Sight & Sound magazine published the poll results of the greatest films of all-time, which were voted upon by film critics and directors from around the world.

The goal of this club is simply to watch as many of the films, with no pressure to finish a certain number of films by a deadline. This is an opportunity to see what knowledgeable people in the film community consider to be great films. Please do not be intimidated by this list; as long as you see one film on the list, then that will be satisfactory.

If you would like to join this club, then send me a private message, including the number of films you have already seen. There may be multiple appearances of a film on the list or it may be included as part of a series, so to keep things simple, count one row as one film seen.

Please update me with the films that you see. And, feel free to post your thoughts on the films; remember, there is no right or wrong opinion.




Sight and Sound Combined List
RankTitleDirector Year

1Citizen KaneWelles1941
2VertigoHitchcock1958
3Rules of the GameRenoir1939
48 ½Fellini1963
52001: A Space OdysseyKubrick1968
6Tokyo StoryOzu1953
7Godfather Part II, TheCoppola1974
8Seven SamuraiKurosawa1954
9RashomonKurosawa1950
10Battleship PotemkinEisenstein1925
10Singin' in the RainDonen/Kelly1952
12SunriseMurnau1927
13Searchers, TheFord1956
14Lawrence of ArabiaLean1962
15Godfather, TheCoppola1972
16Bicycle Thieves, TheDe Sica1948
16Dolce Vita, LaFellini1960
16Passion of Joan of Arc, TheDreyer1928
19Avventura, L'Antonioni1960
19Breathless (A Bout de souffle)Godard1960
19Touch of EvilWelles1958
22Dr. StrangeloveKubrick1964
22Jules and JimTruffaut1962
22Raging BullScorsese1980
25Atalante, L'Vigo1934
25PsychoHitchcock1960
25Sunset Blvd.Wilder1950
28Fanny and AlexanderBergman1982
28General, TheKeaton/Bruckman1927
28Godfather & Godfather Part II, TheCoppola
1974
28Mirror, TheTarkovsky1975
28Some Like it HotWilder1959
33Andrei RoublevTarkovsky1969
33City LightsChaplin1931
33Children of Paradise (Enfants du
Paradis)
Carne1945
33Grand IllusionRenoir1937
37Apartment, TheWilder1960
37Apocalypse NowCoppola1979
37Au hasard BalthazarBresson1966
37Pather PanchaliRay, Satyajit1955
37Seventh Seal, TheBergman1955
37Taxi DriverScorsese1976
43CasablancaCurtiz1942
43ChinatownPolanski1974
43Contempt (Le Mepris)Godard1963
43Third Man, TheReed1949
43Ugetsu MonogatariMizoguchi1953
48Ivan the TerribleEisenstein1947
48MetropolisLang1927
50400 Blows, TheTruffaut1959
50IntoleranceGriffith1916
50M Lang1931
50OrdetDreyer1955
50Wild StrawberriesBergman1957
55AmarcordFellini1973
55Barry LyndonKubrick1975
55Conformist, TheBertolucci1970
55Modern TimesChaplin1936
55North By NorthwestHitchcock1959
55On the WaterfrontKazan1954
55PersonaBergman1966
55Story of the Late Chrysanthemum,
The
Mizoguchi1939
55Strada, LaFellini1954
64Age d'Or, L'Bunuel1930
64Battle of Algiers, ThePontecorvo1965
64Blade RunnerScott1981
64Gold Rush, TheChaplin1925
64GreedVon Stroheim1925
64Last Year at MarienbadResnais1961
64Magnificent Ambersons, TheWelles1942
64Man with a Movie Camera, TheVertov1929
64NapoleonGance1927
64NashvilleAltman1975
64Once Upon a Time in the WestLeone1968
64PickpocketBresson1959
64Pulp FictionTarentino1994
64Rear WindowHitchcock1954
64Rio BravoHawks1959
64Sweet Smell of SuccessMackendrick1957
64Wild Bunch, ThePeckinpah1969
82City of Sadness, AHou1989
82Clockwork Orange, AKubrick1971
82DekalogKieslowski1990
82GoodfellasScorsese1990
82IkiruKurosawa1952
82Leopard, TheVisconti1963
82Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, TheFord1962
82Night of the HunterLaughton1955
82RanKurosawa1985
82Sansho the Bailiff (Sansho Dayu)Mizoguchi
1954
82Traveling PlayersAngelopoulos1975
82ViridianaBunuel1961
82Voyage to ItalyRossellini1953
95Argent, L'Bresson1983
95Black NarcissusPowell/Pressburger1947
95Blue VelvetLynch1986
95Breaking the WavesVon Trier1996
95Chimes at MidnightWelles1965
95Don't Look NowRoeg1973
95Double IndemnityWilder1944
95Earrings of Madame De, TheOphuls, Max1953
95ElBunuel1952
95Gone with the WindFleming1939
95Gospel Accoring to St. Matthew, ThePasolini
1964
95Grapes of Wrath, TheFord1940
95His Girl FridayHawks1940
95It's a Wonderful LifeCapra1946
95Lady Eve, TheSturges1941
95Letter from an Unknown WomanOphuls, Max
1948
95Matter of Life and DeathPowell/Pressburger
1946
95McCabe & Mrs. MillerAltman1971
95My Darling ClementineFord1946
95NosferatuMurnau1922
95NotoriousHitchcock1946
95Once Upon a Time in AmericaLeone1984
95Pierrot le fouGodard1965
95Sherlock Jr.Keaton 1924
95ShoahLanzmann1985
95StagecoachFord1939
95Treasure of the Sierra MadreHuston1948
95Two or Three Things I know about herGodard
1967
95Vivre sa VieGodard1962
124Alexander NevskyEisenstein1938
124All About EveMankiewicz1950
124All About my MotherAlmodovar1998
124Beauty and the Beast (Belle et la betek,
la)
Cocteau1946
124Brief EncounterLean1945
124Canterbury Tale, APowell/Pressburger1944
124Close UpKiarostami1990
124Cries and WhispersBergman1972
124Crimes and MisdemeanorsAllen1989
124Duck SoupMcCarey1933
124EarthDovzhenko1930
124Eclipse, The (Eclisse, L')Antonioni1962
124Floating CloudsNaruse1955
124GertrudDreyer1964
124Jeanne DielmanAkerman1976
124King KongCooper/Shoedsack1933
124Late SpringOzu1949
124Los OlvidadosBunuel1950
124Loves of a BlondeForman1965
124Man Escaped, ABresson1956
124MarnieHitchcock1964
124Music Room, TheRay, Satyajit1958
124Red RiverHawks1948
124Rome, Open CityRossellini1945
124SatyriconFellini1969
124SolarisTarkovsky1972
124Throne of BloodKurosawa1957
124Time to Live and the Time to Die, TheHou
1985
124To Kill a MockingbirdMulligan1962
124TristanaBunuel1970
124Umberto DDe Sica1952
124Un Chien AndalouBunuel1929
124Yi YiYang2000
157Aguirre, Wrath of GodHerzog1973
157In the Realm of the SensesOshima1976
157Ashes and DiamondsWajda1958
157BadlandsMallick1973
157Belle de jourBunuel1967
157Berlin AlexanderplatzFassbinder1980
157Best Years of our Lives, TheWyler1946
157Black Dog, White DevilRocha1964
157Bonnie and ClydePenn1967
157BrazilGilliam1985
157Bridge on the River Kwai, TheLean1957
157Broken BlossomsGriffith1919
157Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, TheWiene1920
157Celine and Julie go Boating Rivette1974
157CharulataRay, Satyajit1964
157Chungking ExpressWong1994
157Conversation, TheCoppola1974
157Crime of Monsieur LangeRenoir1936
157Day for NightTruffaut1973
157Days of HeavenMallick1978
157Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie,
The
Bunuel1972
157Do the Right ThingLee1989
157E.T.: The Extra-TerrestrialSpielberg1982
157ExorcistFriedkin1973
157Exterminating Angel, TheBunuel1974
157Fear Eats the SoulFassbinder1962
157Great Dictator, TheChaplin1940
157In a Year of Thirteen MoonsFassbinder1978
157In the Mood for LoveWong2000
157India SongDuras1975
157JawsSpielberg1975
157Jetee, LaMarker1962
157Kaagaz ke phoolDutt1959
157Kind Hearts and CoronetsHamer1949
157Life and Death of Colonel Blimp,
The
Powell/Pressburger1943
157Life of OharuMizoguchi1952
157M. Hulot's HolidayTati1954
157Meet Me in St. LouisMinnelli1944
157Monsieur VerdouxChaplin1947
157Mother and the WhoreEustache1973
157One Flew over the Cuckoo's NestForman1975
157Out of the PastTourneur1947
157PaisaRossellini1946
157Palm Beach Story, TheSturges1942
157Paths of GloryKubrick1957
157Piano, TheCampion1993
157PlayTimeTati1967
157ProvidenceResnais1977
157PyaasaDutt1957
157Rise to Power of Louis XIV, TheRossellini
1966
157Rocco and His BrothersVisconti1960
157SaloPasolini1975
157SpartacusKubrick1960
157Spirited AwayMiyazaki2001
157StalkerTarkovsky1979
157Star is Born, ACukor1954
157Star WarsLucas1977
157Sullivan's TravelsSturges1941
157Taste of CherryKiarostami1997
157That Obscure ****** of DesireBunuel1977
157Three Colours TrilogyKieslowski1994
157Through the Olive TreesKiarostami1994
157To Have and Have notHawks1944
157Trouble in ParadiseLubitsch1932
157UnforgivenEastwood1992
157Wages of FearClouzot1953
157Wind Will Carry UsKiarostami1999
157World of ApuRay, Satyajit1959
157Written on the WindSirk1956
2261900Berolucci1976
226AccattonePasolini1961
226African Queen, TheHuston1951
226Age of InnocenceScorsese1993
226All that Heaven AllowsSirk1956
226And Life Goes OnKiarostami1991
226AngelLubitsch1937
226Annie HallAllen1997
226Apu Trilogy, TheRay, Satyajit1959
226AtanarjuatKunuk2001
226Autumn Afternoon, AnOzu1964
226Baby DollKazan1956
226Bigger Than LifeRay, Nicholas1956
226Birth of a Nation, TheGriffith1915
226Bob le flambeurMelville1955
226Bride of FrankensteinWhale1935
226Bringing up BabyHawks1938
226Burnt by the SunMikhalkov1994
226Dames du Bois de Boulogne, LesBresson1945
226Day of WrathDreyer1943
226Death in VeniceVisconti1971
226Demoiselles de Rochefort, LesDemy/Varda
1967
226Devils, TheRussell1971
226Don't Look BackPennebaker1967
226Double Life of Veronique, TheKieslowski
1993
226Naked ChildhoodPialat1970
226Eternity and a DayAngelopoulos1998
226EuropaVon Trier1991
226F for FakeWelles1976
226Phantom of LibertyBunuel1974
226Farewell My ConcubineChen1993
226FargoCoens1996
226Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!Meyer1985
226Woman Next Door, TheTruffaut1981
226Fires Were StartedJennings1943
226Germany Year ZeroRossellini1947
226Godfather Trilogy, TheCoppola1992
226Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, TheLeone1967
226Great ExpectationsLean1947
226HateKassovitz1995
226Hidden Fortress, TheKurosawa1958
226High and LowKurosawa1963
226Hiroshima mon AmourResnais1959
226Hotel Terminous: Klaus Barbie, His Life and
Times
Ophuls, Marcel1988
226I vitelloniFellini1953
226Red Desert, TheAntonioni1964
226Lacombe LucienMalle1974
226Lady Vanishes, TheHitchcock1938
226Lancelot of the LakeBresson1974
226Last Laugh, TheMurnau1924
226Last Picture Show, TheBogdanovich1971
226LimelightChaplin1952
226LolaDemy 1961
226Love Me TonightMamoulian1932
226LudwigVisconti1972
226Make Way for TomorrowMcCarey1937
226Maltese Falcon, TheHuston1941
226Masculin FemininGodard1986
226Mean StreetsScorsese1973
226Meghe dhaka taraGhatik1960
226Miracle in MilanDe Sica1951
226Moment of Innocence, AMakhmalbaf1996
226My Neighbor TotoroMiyazaki1988
226Nanook of the NorthFlaherty1922
226Navigator, TheKeaton 1924
226NetworkLumet1976
226Nights of CabiriaFellini1957
226OctoberEisenstein1927
226Odd Man OutReed1947
226Oedipus RexPasolini1967
226OrlandoPotter1992
226OrpheeCocteau1949
226PakeezahAmrohi1975
226Pandora's BoxPabst1929
226Day in the Country, ARenoir1936
226Passenger, TheAntonioni1975
226PerformanceRoeg1970
226PuppetmasterHou1993
226Red Shoes, ThePowell/Pressburger1948
226Region Centrale, LaSnow1971
226Remains of the Day, TheIvory1993
226Riff-RaffLoach1990
226Rosemary's BabyPolanski1968
226Round-Up, TheJancso1965
226Rue Cases-Negres, LaPalcy1983
226Sacrifice, TheTarkovsky1986
226Salvatore GiulianoRosi1961
226Scarlett Empress, TheVon Sternberg1934
226Schindler's ListSpielberg1993
226ShadowsCassavetes1959
226ShaneStevens1953
226She Wore a Yellow RibbonFord1949
226Shining, TheKubrick1980
226Short CutsAltman1993
226Silences du palais, LesTlati1994
226Steamboat Bill, Jr.Keaton/Reisner1928
226Still LifeSaless1974
226Strangers on a TrainHitchcock1951
226Stray DogKurosawa1949
226StrikeEisenstein1925
226Thief of Bagdad, TheBerger/Powell1940
226Thing from Another World, TheHawks/Nyby
1951
226Three Colours BlueKieslowski1991
226Time of GypsiesKusterica1988
226Tingler, TheCastle1959
226Shoot the Piano PlayerTruffaut1960
226To Be or Not ot BeLubitsch1942
226To Sleep with AngerBurnett1990
226Topsy-TurvyLeigh1999
226Touch of Zen, AHu 1969
226UndergroundKusterica1995
226Vampires, LesFeuillade1915
226VampyrDreyer1932
226Vidas SecasDos Santos1963
226WeekendGodard1967
226Where is My Friend's House?Kiarostami1987
226White HeatWalsh1949
226Wind, TheSjostrom1928
226Woman under the Influence, ACassavetes
1974
226XalaSembene1975




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thomas_jesp 49

#2 of 3783 Jay E

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Posted January 21 2003 - 08:36 AM

A great list and I'm glad to see that Star Wars didn't make the top 100 (rightfully so). Unlike other lists (including HTF's own), this list falls more into line with what I see as "great" films.

There are about 30 films that I haven't seen on that list. Regrettably, many of these are not available on DVD. I don't rent VHS tapes so it would be hard for me to view these films anytime soon so I won't be able to join. But I think it's a really good idea Thai and I wish you all the best with the club!

#3 of 3783 Doug D

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Posted January 21 2003 - 10:33 AM

ATANARJUAT is on R1 DVD. (Seville, Canada) It's coming out as THE FAST RUNNER in the US soon through Columbia, I think.

The possibility that I might get LOST IN SPACE as a result of joining is a powerful disincentive, but I'm still thinking about it.
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#4 of 3783 Lew Crippen

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Posted January 21 2003 - 11:15 AM

I agree, a great list. In order not to cheat and count films I’d seen 30 years ago, I set an arbitrary limit of the last 12 months for my starting point. As of a few day’s ago that was 59. A very long way to go, but this should be fun.
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#5 of 3783 DonaldB

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Posted January 21 2003 - 11:17 AM

Thi, thanks so much for running this club, I look forward to reading the discussions that follow. (The layout looks nice, too!)

These are available in R1:
Le Mépris (Contempt)
Close-up
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Atanarjuat
Day of Wrath
Les Demoiselles de Rochefort


These are available in other regions:
Rules of the Game
Jules and Jim
L'Atalante
Fanny and Alexander
The Mirror
The 400 Blows
Wild Strawberries
City of Sadness (no English subs)
Dekalog
The Leopard
Voyage to Italy
El
The Gospel According to St. Matthew
Pierrot le fou
Shoah
Cries and Whispers
Los Olvidados
The Music Room
The Time to Live and the Time to Die
La Nuit américaine
Paths of Glory
Rocco and His Brothers
Spirited Away
Stalker
Atanarjuat
Les Demoiselles de Rochefort
Eternity and a Day
Europa
The Hidden Fortress
Meghe dhaka tara (The Cloud-Capped Star)
My Neighbor Totoro
The Sacrifice
Short Cuts
Stray Dog


I'm sure I've missed a few.

#6 of 3783 Evan Case

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Posted January 21 2003 - 12:58 PM

I've seen 199 of the list above (this is by counting each block as "one"--thus doubling up on things like the Godfather or Three Colors films, but counting long films like Shoah only once).

I've already completed my self-imposed challenge of seeing 100 of the first 128 films listed under the 2002 link in my signature, but you can certainly mark me down again here.

I'll also post here when I have the chance. Coincidentally, I just took out from the Library two films on the S&S 2002 list that I've yet to see: The Red Shoes (Criterion) and Day of Wrath. Looking forward to them.

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#7 of 3783 Thi Them

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Posted January 21 2003 - 02:25 PM

Thank you, Doug and Donald, for providing me with the corrections.

I've changed the method of counting the number of films seen to make it easier. It shouldn't matter if we are counting some films more than once, as long as everyone uses the same method.

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#8 of 3783 Seth Paxton

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Posted January 21 2003 - 02:51 PM

While this was before this thread started, I would like to say that HTF in general and lists like the S&S one got me to check out many of those films in the last year or so.

Some of my more recent viewings include - 8 1/2, Battleship Potemkin, Sunrise, Passion of Joan of Arc, Rashoman, The General, Grand Illusion, 400 Blows (just last night), Ikuru, and Sullivan's Travels.

Netflix is really helping with this and my queue is loaded with many of these films. I'll have to count up just how many I've seen. At this point I would guess about 75 or so.



BTW, I'm very pleased to see von Trier's Europa (or Zentropa as it is also known) on the list. I just wish it would come out on DVD. I was lucky enough to see a print in a film class a few years ago. It's a very cool film.

#9 of 3783 Kirk Tsai

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Posted January 21 2003 - 09:37 PM

I had read many of the previous challenge's posts, and in choosing which movies to watch, used the 1992 S&S list as a guide to dive into ones I was unfamiliar with. Needless to say, I'm glad these lists and clubs are here in HTF. Before I was too timid to actually join the 'challenge,' which just sounds difficult in its name. :b But I'll give it a try this time. I'm at 117. Thanks for hosting Thi, great looking layout, too.

#10 of 3783 george kaplan

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Posted January 21 2003 - 11:54 PM

How many films are on that list? I count 340, which seems like an odd number.

I've seen a lot of those films, but many of them not for nearly 20 years (God, I'm starting to feel old). So counting only films I don't need to rewatch, I guess I've seen 131 (like others, just using the boxes - Godfather Trilogy as 1 film).

Since there's no deadline (and no dues Posted Image), and since a number of those films are on my to watch list anyway, I'll join the club.
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#11 of 3783 Pascal A

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Posted January 22 2003 - 01:22 AM

These are also available in other regions or alternate sources:

Chimes at Midnight (Orson Welles) [R2-Spain]
The Passenger (Michelangelo Antonioni) [R2-Japan] {under the title Professione: Reporter}
Pyaasa (Guru Dutt) [R1] - Yash Raj DVD, very good quality, can be picked up at Indian DVD shops

I guess I had more than the two I thought I needed to see to finish the list. :b Here are the ones I haven't seen:

Kaagaz ke phool (Guru Dutt) - available as Yash Raj DVD
India Song (Marguerite Duras)
L'Enfance nue (Maurice Pialat)
Pakeezah (Kamal Amrohi) - available from India Plaza, unknown quality
Les Silences du palais (Moufida Tlatli)

I also need to rewatch Black God, White Devil (Glauber Rocha), since I only paid attention to about half of it.
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#12 of 3783 Darren H

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Posted January 22 2003 - 02:54 AM

Thanks for doing this, Thi. It looks like you and I are tied at 154. I just queued up about 70 more, though, so I should be able to get through most of the list in the next two years or so. Posted Image
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Posted January 22 2003 - 04:08 AM

I've only seen about 67 of the films on this list but I recognize just about every one. I think the only real disappointment for me is that "Maltese Falcon" is so low on the list. It's one of my favorite films to watchPosted Image
I definitely think the list as a whole seems to contain all films worthy of distinction so I definitely want to try and finish as many on this list as possible.

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#14 of 3783 Lew Crippen

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Posted January 22 2003 - 04:27 AM

I got out my copy of The Hidden Fortress last night, to bring my recently watched (last year) films to 60. Out of the current top 100, I’ve seen: Readjusting to count one film per line, I’m at 62 (Godfather duplication)

Citizen Kane
8 1/2
2001: A Space Odyssey
Godfather, The Part II
Seven Samurai
Battleship Potemkin
Lawrence of Arabia
Godfather, The
Passion of Joan of Arc, The
avventura, L'
Touch of Evil
Psycho
The Godfather and The Godfather Part II
Andrei Roublev
Enfants du paradis, Les
Grand Illusion
Seventh Seal, The
Taxi Driver
Third Man, The
Ivan the Terrible
400 Blows, The
M
Ordet
Wild Strawberries
Amarcord
Barry Lyndon
Strada, La
Clockwork Orange, A
Black Narcissus
Lady Eve, The
Notorious
Stagecoach


And out of the next grouping, I’ve seen:

Alexander Nevsky
Belle et la Bête, La
Brief Encounter
Cries and Whispers
Duck Soup
Gertrud
King Kong


And out of the third group, I’ve seen:

Brazil
Bridge on the River Kwai, The
Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, The
Do the Right Thing
In the Mood for Love
M. Hulot's Holiday
Paths of Glory
Playtime
Salò
Spartacus
Sullivan's Travels
That Obscure Object of Desire
Wages of Fear, The


And from the last group, Ive seen:

All That Heaven Allows
Bride of Frankenstein
Day of Wrath
The Godfather Trilogy
Hidden Fortress, The
Lady Vanishes, The
Maltese Falcon, The
Nights of Cabiria
Orphée
Red Shoes, The

A very long way to go, but it will be fun, not only to watch again some films that I’ve not seen for some time, but to see for the first time, some that should be seen.
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#15 of 3783 Jun-Dai Bates

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Posted January 22 2003 - 04:53 AM

I'm in. I've seen 153 of these films.

Most recently I saw Stagecoach, which I wasn't terribly impressed with. Perhaps it's because I'm not a big fan of westerns, or perhaps it's because the film is just silly. Can anyone that thinks the film is great explain to me what they found interesting or profound?

Also recently I saw Yi Yi. There were some genuinely powerful dramatic moments, and I found the film compelling for a number of reasons. But I also found the business relationship in the film to be aggravatingly cliche and naive, and the music made me want to strangle myself. The scene in which the Japanese businessman (the name escapes me) plays the opening of the moonlight sonata is the best example of everything I disliked most about the film. The scene in which the grandmother awoke and talked to her granddaughter, on the other hand, exemplifies what I found to be good in the film.

The worst films on the S&S list (IMO):
Odd Man Out
Rocco and His Brothers
The Piano

Probably I will skip E.T., even though it is on my list of films I haven't seen. I don't really remember the film from my childhood, but I dislike Spielberg, and don't feel the need to see the films again.

#16 of 3783 Lew Crippen

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Posted January 22 2003 - 05:40 AM

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Can anyone that thinks the film is great explain to me what they found interesting or profound?

I’m not one of the camp who consider this one of the best Westerns ever, as I really think it one of John Ford’s weakest. But, as with almost any film directed by Ford there are a number of things to like. To begin with, this is a fine example of a film where we get to know all of the protagonists early, and they then act and react as one would expect, based on their characters as established, but not just to further the plot as convenient (this of course within the conventions of Westerns and of the 30s). There is plenty of John Ford’s favorite setting, Monument Valley, as well photographed as ever and this film provides a nice contrast with this wide expanse and the interior setting of the stagecoach and way stations.

Many see this film, as a metaphor for westward expansion, even of manifest destiny and all that implies. True or not that kind of interpretation is now out of fashion.

Having written this, I’m not impressed overall. I think that much of the above is heavy handed and some of the writing to be predictable bordering on trite—although the cardboard characters do act (as I observed) within the bounds established for them.

This is a film that would not make my top 100 or probably even my top 339. Still, it has virtues and is worth seeing.

Hope I don’t get drummed out of the Western fan club for these comments. Posted Image

Perhaps a true fan of the film, may be able to be more insightful.
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#17 of 3783 Brook K

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Posted January 22 2003 - 05:51 AM

I'm in. I'm at 197 and there's quite a few already on my Netflix list and more R1's I can add.

I went ahead and counted a few that I haven't seen in years, like Short Cuts, since there unavailable on DVD as of yet. But I didn't count a few that I've seen most of several times, but have never seen the ending, like Blade Runner and The Piano. (don't ask me how that happened).

I'm surprised to see Keaton's The Navigator on the list as I thought it was the most average of any of his features I've seen. Seven Chances would have been a much better choice.

Which short's disc is La Jetee on again, #2?

I'm sure I can also contribute some discs. Anyone up for an original Last of the Mohicans or Swingers? How about Fargo in the craptacular sliding case? Posted Image
2002 Sight & Sound Challenge: 321  Last Watched: L'enfance Nue
Last 8 Films Watched: In the Loop - A- / It Might Get Loud - B+ / What Just Happened? - B / Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs - C- / Drums Along the Mohawk - A- / Punisher War Zone - B+ / Moon - C+ / A Man For All Seasons - B+

#18 of 3783 Brook K

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Posted January 22 2003 - 06:56 AM

Ok, I'm actually at 198. I didn't realize Ai No Corrida was In The Realm Of The Senses.

Added a bunch at Netflix, but they don't carry these R1's:

Kind Hearts & Coronets
Fires Were Started
La Rue Cases-Negres
Thief of Bagdad
Close-Up
Earth
2002 Sight & Sound Challenge: 321  Last Watched: L'enfance Nue
Last 8 Films Watched: In the Loop - A- / It Might Get Loud - B+ / What Just Happened? - B / Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs - C- / Drums Along the Mohawk - A- / Punisher War Zone - B+ / Moon - C+ / A Man For All Seasons - B+

#19 of 3783 Lew Crippen

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Posted January 22 2003 - 07:23 AM

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but have never seen the ending, like Blade Runner and The Piano.
You probably fell asleep during the movie, Brook. Posted Image

One of the reasons that I gave myself an artificial cutoff, is because of my view of some films seen once and dismissed, The Piano being an example. It did not really engage me (in fact I thought it poorly constructed, though beautiful enough). Time to put the lie to my view.
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#20 of 3783 Tim RH

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Posted January 22 2003 - 08:43 AM

I'm in too. I have seen a total of 166 of those titles, so help me! Posted Image There are certainly plenty left though that I want to see off that list. How many titles are there in total? I ask because there are a heck of a lot of 226's.




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