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gene c

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I've changed my mind about the first car I'd want to own. It's now a Fiat 500 Abarth!
In a British car magazine about 15 years ago a journalist was test driving a restored 500 Abarth and said it was "like driving a bucket-full of spiders!" He had to bring the revs up to 4000 and pop the clutch to get it going from a stand-still otherwise he would kill the engine. He said he felt silly driving such a car around town but was grinning from ear to ear the entire time. It was a hand full. It must have been the SS!
 

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My SUV is 11 years old. I got a 1998 Mercury Mountaineer 5.0L as a graduation present early May. 154,000 miles on it. It has no real problems (Just a few flukes, a small exhaust leak and the radio display doesn't light up are the worst of them). I can see 10 more years before the engine goes out, probably 5 before the tranny goes out. Overall good SUV. And I will probably get a used car, unless I have a really well paid just in 5-10 years. :P
 

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Furglisher double post. The new forum software appears to give an error message - "try again later" - but still posts after a delay.

Edited by Dennis Nicholls - 7/6/2009 at 03:43 pm GMT
 

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In fact, the cars had a nasty habit of rusting in front of your very eyes.
Fiat's response to their cars quickly succumbing to rust was "Buy another one!"
Gene, this is the Fiat 500 I'm talking about.
I knew that. I just brought up the old one for fun. I think Fiat would fare much better in North America today than it did in the '70's. If they could over-come the reputation of poor reliability and rust-proofing. Always fun cars to drive, though.
 

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Originally Posted by drobbins

So the questions are; How many miles are on you car? How much longer do you expect it to last? When do you expect to get your next car?
My wife has a 2000 Toyota Sienna with about 68,000 miles on it, it'll keep running for years. It's paid off.

I have a 2008 Eclipse GT with about 13,000 miles on it, it'll keep running for years, plus I LOVE this car and will not sell it, at least, not until I can get my Aston Martin. No other car I test drove gave me that "cockpit" feel when behind the wheel. Add to that I got a 5 year 0% interest loan there's no reason at all to pay it off.

So, that being said, no new cars until my daughter turns 18, so for at least 5 years.
 

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When I was shopping I test drove an Eclipse and loved it. I would have bought it, but the 26mpg the dealer told me talked me out of it. What kind of millage are you getting? I drive 500 miles per week to and from work, so the 34 mpg Ion sold me.
 

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One of the very last things I consider when buying a car is mpg, first and foremost is what will make me happy, what I like, style, fit and feel. I have the 3.8L V6 6-speed and average roughly 21mpg, all city driving, almost no freeway.
 

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Once in another thread, I questioned how environmentally friendly the Prius is, and I was almost lynched for blasphemy. I think the clincher in that video is the "at that particular speed" and I doubt that many drive at that speed. I did look at a used Prius, but I did not test drive it. On the interstate on the way to work sometimes the 75-85 mph traffic slows down to 65-70 mph. In the past the cause was usually either a cop or a U-Haul truck. More and more lately it is now a Prius. I assume that they can go faster, but choose not to in order to get better mpg. I believe that most cars get their best mpg at 55-60mph. So if we all slowed down we would use less gas, but how fun is that?
 

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Originally Posted by drobbins

Once in another thread, I questioned how environmentally friendly the Prius is, and I was almost lynched for blasphemy.
I am not given to believing everything that David E. Kelley puts into his scripts, but one episode of Boston Legal did get me thinking about this, when one of the lawyers argued that hybrids aren't as green as everyone thinks once you factor in the environmental impact of the manufacture of the batteries, in particular the nickel that goes into them.

Anyway, we have a 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer, which is probably good for another 3 years or so -- humidity here, as well as stop-start city driving, is hard on most cars. In any case, that danged "Certificate of Entitlement" is only good for 10 years (i.e. until 2015), and there is no point extending on a modest car like a Lancer.

I would love to get an Evolution, but the missus is bound to veto that, she already thinks the Lancer is too bumpy a rid. Maybe something boring (but comfortable) like a Camry next.
 

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Originally Posted by Francois Caron

Speaking of gas mileage, here's another Top Gear Tip. Pay close attention to the results.
What speed is "at that speed"? That's a humorous clip, but devoid of real information. No small car gets 17 mpg driven at anything reasonable. My 4-cy 1993 Escort got 38-42 mpg at highway speeds (65-75). My Accord V6 gets 30-32 mpg at highway speeds. The Prius is rated at 42 mpg at "Highway" driving. Their results are nonsensical.
 

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Considering the test was performed on the the Top Gear test track, the Prius MIGHT be able to go as high as 60 mph based on drobbins' highway experience. But this track also has some interesting curves designed to torture a car's performance, notably the Hammerhead. So the Prius was most likely driven flat out to get it up to speed, while the M3 leisurely followed right behind it.

But the final result is still valid: it's not what you drive, but how you drive it. If a Prius is so underperforming that you need to "step on it" to get it to move at all, you'll definitely be driving it to the point where you'll be wasting more gas than you'll save. The M3 only needs a light touch to get it moving at all, meaning it'll be less aggressive on gas consumption.

Here's another Top Gear gas consumption video. This one is hilarious!
 

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But the final result is still valid: it's not what you drive, but how you drive it.
While factually valid -- driving affects mileage -- it's an intentionally misleading and disingenuous comparison. No one gets 17 mpg from a Prius, especially on the highway. You have to go out of your way to find a driving style that results in that poor of mileage from any modern sedan, highway or no, let alone the most efficient hybrid on the roads.

I enjoy Top Gear, but that clip is bad TV.
 

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