NeilO
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The first two scripts of the season are available for download from the BBC Writers Room
David Weicker said:Well, I disagree with your ranking.
To me, this pair of episodes were the best of any of the Capaldi era.
Granted that last year was utter and complete dreck, this series started with a low bar.
But tonight's episode was one of the best episodes of NewWho.
NeilO said:I am dreading the "found footage" episode next time, but maybe we'll be surprised.
NeilO said:I thought it was an interesting attempt to make a found footage episode. It worked in of itself as a creepy horror episode. I don't think it really worked as a Doctor Who episode. I do not want them to try again.
Adam Lenhardt said:I'm still digesting that hour of television, but it may just be my favorite companion exit in all of "Doctor Who" ...
By contrast, Clara's departure feels like a satisfying culmination of her entire time in the TARDIS. The circumstances of her death are the consequence of her ever-increasing recklessness since Danny Pink's death, circumstances that the Doctor has foreseen in one form or another all series long.
... Something tells me the Time Lords of the lost Gallifrey are involved in Ashildr's shenanigans.
NeilO said:I was disappointed in the exit. It was a completely wasteful tragedy. She acted on faulty knowledge and threw away her life. She might as well have just fallen down from the TARDIS while she was "mapping" the area. It was almost as bad as Danny Pink's first death which was amazingly stupid - killed while not paying attention, talking to Clara on a cellphone. (Speaking of Danny Pink, I thought it had been rumored we were going to hear more about Orson Pink this season. I guess they dropped it.)
In one of the trailers for the season, they had a clip of the Doctor talking about the hybrid that wasn't in any of the prior episodes, or set in a location we've seen in the prior episodes, so my guess is that the resolution for that is still to come in the two-part finale.Was there any mention of hybrid this episode? Was that a red herring all season or will it somehow tie everything up in the end?
I understand how it is completely consistent with how things have been going this season, but it doesn't mean I have to like what they did or how they did it.Adam Lenhardt said:She's been throwing her life away all season; the Doctor's reprimanded her for it on more than one occasion. This time it finally caught up with her. She was too cocky, and too sure of the Doctor's omnipotence.
Absolutely fair enough.NeilO said:I understand how it is completely consistent with how things have been going this season, but it doesn't mean I have to like what they did or how they did it.
So far every time we've met up with Ashildr she's been in a completely different place than the last time. Maisie Williams probably only has another 2-3 years where she can believably play someone who doesn't age at all, so I'm hoping they maximize the use of her character without ever letting her fall into a static role.Meanwhile, I was listening to the Incomparable Teevee podcast discussing the episode and one point brought up early is that Mayor Me's standing in the town has to be irrevocably changed after this. 1) She promised protection of Clara and Clara died. 2) The person who they all believed committed murder, didn't commit the murder. 3) The victim isn't even dead and the whole situation was a lie. 4) The town justice system is built on zero tolerance. I do hope we will see the impact to the town and Mayor Me or the actions in this episode.
David Weicker said:Then we get this all-powerful weapon. Something that can kill anyone at any time and at any distance. Something that couldn't be stopped by traveling in the TARDIS (running away) or by putting the victim into stasis. Something that could be transferred (except when it couldn't). Something that could be turned off (except when it couldn't).. Something so all-powerful, yet the Doctor has never mentioned it, warned people about, or discussed it possible ban or prohibition.