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Disney´s Enhanced for Home Theater 5.1 DD mix = DTS? In R4, it is...

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Sergio Martorel, Oct 3, 2003.

  1. Sergio Martorel

    Sergio Martorel Second Unit

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    I have the brazilian, NTSC R4 edition of LION KING, and it´s exactly like the american one (including the option of portuguese subtitles and dubbing, of course).

    But the strange thing is, when I select the "Enhanced for Home Theater 5.1 DD mix" sound option, it not only appears listed as "DTS" on the menu; it also leads you to a DTS logo ("the DTS track can only by played on blah blah blah..."), and the DTS led lights out on my HT set!

    Am I missing something? I´ve heard that you have to PAY DTS to put their logo on the cover, so that means Disney renamed DTS just to... do something I´m not sure of?

    Weird...

    Edit: I would gladly put screengrabs to prove it, but I don´t have a suitable place to host ´em.

    http://www.dvdshow.com.br/padrao.php...nhas_&res=1484
     
  2. DaViD Boulet

    DaViD Boulet Lead Actor

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    Apparently the Lion King is getting DTS for the Enhanced mix for many other regions outside R1. Interesting that it wasn't mentioned on the packaging. I'd love for some folks to post their impressions of the DTS version...especially if they can compare to the 5.1 DD enhanced mix on the R1.

    -dave [​IMG]
     
  3. Sergio Martorel

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    I think it´s exactly the same "enhanced mix", only, uh, encoded as DTS or something like that.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. DaViD Boulet

    DaViD Boulet Lead Actor

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    Yes, you're right.

    Because of the all-out uncompromised nature of the 5.1 DD enhanced mix (no dialog norm to my knowledge, and no downmix considerations), this should make for the best consumer-level DD/DTS comparison yet. Any differences we hear are only a result of the codec and bit-rate it uses...*not* mix or mastering differences.

    If you get a chance to compare...let us know what you think!

    I plan to eventaully get a Malata multi-region DVD player and you can bet that a DTS Lion King will be one of the first titles I buy to spin on it!

    dave [​IMG]
     
  5. Sergio Martorel

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  6. DaViD Boulet

    DaViD Boulet Lead Actor

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    Yes,

    sometimes the 5.1 DD and DTS tracks use different mixes...or more often they use the same mixes but perhaps with some modifications to one track or the other(like dialog normalization or EQ adjustments to the DD track) or level differences etc.

    The Lion King DVD should offer consumers as close to a true apples/apples A/B comparison of the DD/DTS as we can get.

    Looking forward to some other-region reviews!

    dave [​IMG]
     
  7. Dan Hitchman

    Dan Hitchman Screenwriter

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    Why the hell didn't Disney use DTS for the enhanced track in Region 1 anyway?? Their Platinum titles are really, really ill conceived IMHO.

    Dan
     
  8. Sergio Martorel

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  10. Sergio Martorel

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    BTW: It's PAL-M and not NTSC.

    [​IMG]

    Cristiano
     
  12. Tom_Bechet

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    The UK also has DTS (only for the disney enhanced track though)on it's release. no idea how it compares to the DD5.1 as the disc won't be out for another 2 weeks. in the meantime check this review:
    Lion King UKR2 review

    and if you really wanna be angry at us:
    check the soundtrack options for T3
    then again you probably know that already, but I haven't checked the forum for quite some time, sorry

    HTH
     
  13. Sergio Martorel

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    The brazilian edition of HULK will also come with DTS sound....:b
     
  15. Quint van der Vaart

    Quint van der Vaart Second Unit

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    I went to a special presentation of The Lion king dvd two weeks ago in my country and got to listen to the new Enhanced Surround Souns option (DTS in this case) and I can say it sound absolutely fabulous.

    I also asked some members from the Disney staff if more titles will be released with DTS sound in Europe and they confirmed with me that at least Finding Nemo and next years Aladdin will have DTS Sound.
    Looks like to other winners from Disney in region 02 [​IMG]
     
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  18. Quint van der Vaart

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    I realy don't understand either but it seems to be a continuing thing here in Europe that more and more titles are being issued with DTS sound while in America it becomes less and less.

    Look at Japan for instance, they get The Core , Blade , Solaris , Tomb Raider and so much more titles with DTS while the region 01 counterparts don't.
    I guess it has to do with a discission the studio's make, the one can live with a bit less video quality and the other cannot.

    For me personally I like this development and yes I can't wait either and will buy Finding Nemo next month and next year just so I won't miss out from both worlds [​IMG]
     
  19. DaViD Boulet

    DaViD Boulet Lead Actor

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    Grrr. I want all these R1 titles in DTS too!

    Hopfully there will be some non-PAL other-region DVDs with DTS...I'd like to get them but I don't want the PAL audio speed-up issue if I can avoid it.

    -dave [​IMG]
     
  20. Joseph_mx

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    David, TLK region 4 in Mexico has DTS and is NTSC
     

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