Ransom Stoddard
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Oh please. A mediocre release of a 50 year old film that would have sold maybe a couple thousand of copies is not a nail in any coffin.
The average (mass) consumer doesn't care about quality controlOriginally Posted by Robert Harris /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867035
Recall?
No. Good enough for the general public. I'm beginning to believe that Blu-ray doesn't really matter. This is just one more nail in the format's coffin. I've spoken before about a need for quality control for those using the format. This has not occurred, and releases such as this damage the overall quality concept as far as public awareness of the format.
Blu-ray could have been a format for the general public, but I no longer support that concept. DVD and downloads are the way to go.
RAH
Really quite simple. The industry is moving from Blu-ray, which is a high resolution format, to downloads, which are far lower resolution for both image and audio.Originally Posted by Mike Frezon /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867053
I'm afraid the leap from a bad Blu-ray treatment of My Fair Lady to "DVDs and downloads are the way to go" seems a bit extreme even for this HT enthusiast.
This discussion seems muddled to me. It is quite possible that it's over my head. But part of my confusion comes from when you say this Blu-ray release is "good enough for the general public" and then a few sentences later decry that Blu-ray is not longer "a format for the general public."
As I noted above, for a limited time, you can look to Sony, Fox, Criterion and Blue Underground.Originally Posted by GMpasqua /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867058
[COLOR= #ff0000]All I want is a disc somewhere[/COLOR]
[COLOR= #ff0000]Far away from the average fare[/COLOR]
[COLOR= #ff0000]Transfered by those who care[/COLOR]
[COLOR= #ff0000]Oh, Wouldn't it be Loverly[/COLOR]
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This is what the general population call an elementary educationOriginally Posted by Ransom Stoddard /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867055
Oh please. A mediocre release of a 50 year old film that would have sold maybe a couple thousand of copies is not a nail in any coffin.
Considering I much, much, much prefer the 1938 version and I would rather slam my hand in a car door than watch The Hangover I rebuke all accusations of being a modern simpleton.GMpasqua said:This is what the general population call an elementary education
"My Fair Lady" / Audrey Hepburn? this title is probably amoung the top 20 most popular selling films from the 1960's
This title has grossed so much money CBS did a full restoration in 1994
More people probably own a copy of MFL than most of the films released in the past ten years will ever bring in in the future (and really is anyone going to buy "the Hangover" 50 years from now?)
move your bloom'in arse and go back to you iphone where you can really enjoy the lastest flicks the way the were meant to be seen
"My Fair Lady" and "Brealfast at Tiffany's" are Hepburns most popluar filmsRansom Stoddard said:Considering I much, much, much prefer the 1938 version and I would rather slam my hand in a car door than watch The Hangover I rebuke all accusations of being a modern simpleton.
Maybe if they released great Hepburn movies like Roman Holiday and Sabrina and not the mediocre ones like My Fair Lady and Breakfast at Tiffany's more people would be interested?
The fact is a format success will be down to new releases.
And from these charts it's clear that Blu-ray is pounding DVD in terms of both units sold and revenue:
http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/thisweek.php
http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart
Clearly DVD is not the way to go anymore.
As for downloads I don't know the figures but I don't anyone who downloads movies with any great frequency, and I know that downloading a 10GB for every movie I want to watch would kill my Internet.
The average viewer will be blissfully unaware of these problems, and should therefore be thrilled with the new CBS/Paramount Blu-ray.
Certainly "good enough" as long as you don't mind it looking like problematic film less the proper resolution.Originally Posted by Mike Frezon /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867100
Thank you for the explanation, Robert.
I understand your point that from your insider's perspective the lack of care given this film for its Blu-ray presentation is an indicator that we may be seeing the beginning of the end for quality Blu-ray treatment of catalog titles (if I've understood you correctly).
But I guess what I want to know is if the PQ of My Fair Lady on blu is significantly better than the PQ of the last DVD? It must be, right? I would suspect there are scenes of revelatory detail and beauty which would make fans of the film quite pleased. And you said in your OP that the audio is "very good."
I believe Blu-ray is quite definitely a format for the general public--something of which I'm reminded more and more often as I find myself in media retailers and general retailers and continue to see Blu-ray sections get larger and larger and the groups of people viewing those sections getting more and more plentiful (much like what I remember when DVD usurped VHS). Product prices (both software and hardware) continue to become more affordable for the general public creating a greater accessibility and the "Joe Six-Pack" cited often around this board of enthusiasts has seemed to realize that his new, big flat screen display is capable of putting out a lovely image.
As an enthusiast, I wish upon wish that I could read here that someone with your expertise and knowledge was thrilled with the treatment given this film, but maybe I fall more into this category you describe:
One of the things I would hope to get out of this thread, but maybe I need to wait for the official HTF review, is if this blu-ray release of My Fair Lady is "good enough" (all things being subjective) that I should add it to my collection.
From the Worst Laserdisc of 1992 and 1993 to Not the Worst, But One of the Most Disappointing Blu-Rays of 2011.Originally Posted by Robert Harris /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867109
Certainly "good enough" as long as you don't mind it looking like problematic film less the proper resolution.
I don't mean to be thick, but I am having a hard time understanding your nuance.Originally Posted by Robert Harris /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867109
Certainly "good enough" as long as you don't mind it looking like problematic film less the proper resolution.
You'll have to view this to understand. As long as there is no need for anything other than a very average image the disc is fine. On top of that there has never been a Blu-ray release with the field problems that are seen on this one.Originally Posted by Mike Frezon /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867115
I don't mean to be thick, but I am having a hard time understanding your nuance.
"Problematic film with less than proper resolution" doesn't sound like something acceptable (let alone "thrilling") to the average viewer. Or, like something that would garner a "recommended" critique.
No offense taken. Here's what I had to say about Mad World:Originally Posted by GMpasqua /t/315932/a-few-words-about-my-fair-lady-in-blu-ray/30#post_3867171
Well, no offense to Mr Harris, but he did not recommend "It's a Mad, Mad Mad Mad, World" and tore the disc apart in his assessment while almost everyone else found the transfer to be one of the best this year (with a few minor exceptions amoung the opening credits/overture)
Mr. Harris has very high standards, but we need to actually see this disc (or a least some screen shots) before getting too upset. For all we know the disc could look very good, maybe not "The Ten Commandments" good - but Paramount did a digital transfer of that film for theatrical showings and spent a lot of time and money on it. Paramount also owns "The Ten Commandments" they do not own "My Fair Lady"