Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) (1 Viewer)

[Diallo B]

to all of the toys for adults supporters:

i am quite sure that the market share for that demographic is quite small given the entire scope of what a toy company like hasbro has projected in toy sales.

the types of toys that many of you are referring to are a niche market at best. kind of like the equipment that many of us run is niche and a very small part of the overall ht market.

this movie failed to be kid friendly. although i am quite sure that hasbro had every intent to sell as many toys as possible to the kids that did endure this movie. but lets not be ridiculous and think that hasbro or mcfarlane toys is banking on millions of adults to buy complex niche market toys in order to pad their bottom line. in this country, generally speaking, toys and comics are for kids. if this were japan i might give someone a little more leeway in that argument.

and this is coming from someone who still reads comics and manga.

 

[TravisR]

Originally Posted by Diallo B ">[/url]

in this country, generally speaking, toys and comics are for kids.

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Not to go too off topic, I agree that the perception of comic books is that they're for kids but I think the reality is that comics priced kids out of the market 15 years ago. Now with all the entertainment choices and $3 to $4 price tags, you're never going to get kids to return to comics. Whenever I go to the comic book store, a kid's about as likely as a girl- you'll see one every now and then but it's a rarity.

 

[Greg_S_H]

Yeah, I think comics are in danger since it's all old guys and nobody coming up to replace them. And, I don't buy toys, but the McFarlane toys I've seen are definitely aimed at adults. They're too expensive and detailed to really be played with. There's a $300 Iron Man that I know hardly anyone is going to buy for their child. Those are the types of toys that would be sold in a comic shop, and Travis is right about kids being a rarity in one of those.

 

[Simon Massey]

i dont think anyone disagrees that there is a market for adult buyers -star wars and lord of the rings being 2 obvious other examples but the main buyers are going to be kids and Bay seems to forget this. from what i remember of the first film there were similar issues but they were limited to shots of megan fox and a couple of jokes anyway its done and i hope that perhaps they consider this next time. i hate the films but my friend's 6 year old loves the first one and he is disappointed because his dad wont let him go and see it now.

 

[TravisR]

Originally Posted by Simon Massey

...my friend's 6 year old loves the first one and he is disappointed because his dad wont let him go and see it now.

I don't know where he is coming from but I think most of the stuff that someone would find inappropriate for a kid would fly right past them (is a kid really going to get a robot testicles 'joke'?). I'm certainly not telling anyone what is and isn't appropriate for their children but I don't think there's much difference between the two movies so if he's seen the first one, he might as well be allowed to see the second one as well.

 

[Matt^Brown]

Originally Posted by TravisR
I don't know where he is coming from but I think most of the stuff that someone would find inappropriate for a kid would fly right past them (is a kid really going to get a robot testicles 'joke'?). I'm certainly not telling anyone what is and isn't appropriate for their children but I don't think there's much difference between the two movies so if he's seen the first one, he might as well be allowed to see the second one as well.

I let both my kids see the first and they both saw the second one. I liked them both but I think the second one had a lot more profanity. There are many people I know that would not be comfortable letting their 5 -10 year old kids watch this movie. I know, I know. "It says it is PG-13" -- I call bullshit on that because this is aimed at children. Don't believe me? Watch Spongebob and see how many commercials you see for it.

 

[Simon Massey]

well it is pg13 and he made the decision not to let him see it. it wasnt the jokes which probably would have flown over his head it was more the way in which the film dealt with the 2 main female roles especially the female transformer - i think it was far more overtly sexual than the previous one in some scenes PG13 is the right rating its just a shame he cant make one with a lower rating since most buyers of the toys are going to be under 13

 

[rottensoilder]

So cool as it described.But just wondering why the kind man is died in the end.








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[Matt^Brown]

Simon I wished they toned the movie down a little too. I found the fighting scenes were find since it was robot on robot but the profanity and sexual tones could have been removed without hurting the movie at all. Many people thought the story sucked and I don't believe anyone thinks those things are what saved or helped the movie.

 

[nolesrule]

The story was fine. It was basic, it was simple, and it reminded me of the cartoon a bit.

It was the obscenely long final battle that made the film drag out. They could have eliminated the whole Constructicon portion of the battle and a couple of the robots-punching-robots shots and it would have been just about right.


I'm not sure its fair to equate a toy line with the movie itself. There has always been ancillary merchandise available for younger audiences than the primary product has been targeted for, long before any Transformers movies.

 

[Steve Christou]

Originally Posted by nolesrule


It was the obscenely long final battle that made the film drag out. They could have eliminated the whole Constructicon portion of the battle and a couple of the robots-punching-robots shots and it would have been just about right.

I agree the final battle did go on a bit but it made up for the fact there wasn't that much action in the rest of the film, considering it's Michael Bay and 150mins long, so I can't really complain about it.

The Chinese have gone nuts over the film, it's beaten Titanic as the highest grossing film ever -

HONG KONG – The "Transformers" sequel has become China's biggest box office hit ever by earning 400 million Chinese yuan ($59 million), a publicist for the country's leading state-run film company said Friday.

"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" surpassed the 11-year-old record of 360 million yuan set by "Titanic," spokesman Weng Li at the China Film Group, one of the country's two film importers, told The Associated Press. "Titanic" made about $43 million based on exchange rates in 1998, the year it was released.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090717/ap_en_mo/as_china_transformers2_7


And the film has so far grossed $727m in 22 days, according to Box Office Mojo.

 

[Edwin-S]

Finally saw this last night. Military porn at its finest. I know Bay has had a love affair going with the military, but he took it to a whole other level in this film. I got a few chuckles from some of the humour, but most of it made my eyes roll. I know a lot of criticism regarding racial stereotypes has been leveled at the "twins". Personally, I didn't find them racist. I just found them to be tediously infantile and annoying. The movie just felt like it suffered filmic constipation every time they showed up. The character I that I did think bordered on racist was the black butcher with the bad teeth. For some reason, I felt that was more offensive than the "twins" robots, who were just plain stupid. I also didn't get why Bay decided that it was a good idea to up the level of obscene language in the film. For the most part, the language just felt misplaced; although, I did get a few laughs out of the scene where she used the torch on the RC-bot, and he had a few choice words for her. The characterization for the mother was just cringe inducing. I actually felt embarassed for the actress who had to deliver that shit.

The big fight scene was long, but I didn't mind it so much because I felt like I needed some sort of pay off for having to endure Bay's infantile sense of humour. The fight at the end at least delivered in that respect.

 

[Walter Kittel]

Decided to skip Transformers 2, but this almost makes me want to see the film (in an MST3K sort of way)...

www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php

- Walter...

 

[Edwin-S]

^ ^
I think that was posted before. Still, it's funny and is a pretty accurate description of the film. The movie was amazingly senseless as far as storyline is concerned.

 

[Steve Christou]

Just checked Box Office Mojo and Transformers 2 is closing in on $800m after just 5 weeks.

 

[Ken Chan]

It's #1 this year so far, but The Dark Knight was doing better at this point in its run, and ended up stronger domestically than foreign. Transformers is more like this year's Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. Doesn't quite have the same cachet, does it?

 

[Steve Christou]

Well, I enjoyed all three POTC to varying degrees, but no worries it looks like Hairy Potter and the Half-Baked Plot might be this years box office winner.