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  1. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I'm not sure "complaining" is the right word. My recollection was that there was mention of a few things still not perfect, but for the most part everyone that received the set was ecstatic to have it. I think it would be great if it was 100% corrected. However, I will be happy with the 2011 set...
  2. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    All good points Gary.
  3. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Actually, that is incorrect (as catlady also referenced). I neither saw nor received anything formal from CBS or the retailer about returning my set. And I don't recall but one or two individuals even mentioning receiving such a notice (from Amazon). CBS seemed more intent on distancing...
  4. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I knew it was more of a frustration response, and I completely agree with you on what should be done in a perfect world. In my case, I sold the original sets when first pre-ordering the complete series to lessen the blow of the financial hit and hopefully to maximize the trade in. I was...
  5. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Possibly not knowing the history of this release...Harry is talking about the original season releases where the seasons had minimal to major music replacement issues. These came out a few years ago, and this is what Harry and many of us bought because it was all there was. Then last year was...
  6. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Now that is a great question. :) I suppose the biggest problem is that we are on the "Fan" side of the equation, which means we're looking to get the "hard to find item" or are more willing to "treasure the hard to find item" then trying to make a fast buck. In other words, what we are willing...
  7. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Don't forget there are people out there where spending a $1000 to them is like a cup of coffee to the majority of us. And they don't want to go around searching for deals or waiting for another release. They want to just buy it when the thought strikes them. So i'm not really that surprised...
  8. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Well to be fair I did say at least. As of yet I have not seen any listed, so it looks like everyone is waiting it out to see what happens and to see how valuable it could be.
  9. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I think some are giving CBS too much credit regarding: - the need to communicate status to consumers - the need to push this out sooner then later from a consumer perspective - the overall importance of this release within the over focus of a company the size of CBS I just don't think CBS is...
  10. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Well, then I don't see how you can be PO'd if the new set is better. - You received a set only a few were able to get (knowing it could be the only set ever available) - You found out about CBS pulling it and had plenty of time to either return it for a refund or keep it. - You kept this set...
  11. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    All I can say is that i guess you haven't experienced Amazon's customer service. I don't think you would have needed a recall notice. If you just explained to customer service that you received a product and then found out CBS pulled it for technical reasons, I'm almost positive they would have...
  12. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    You could have returned it and got your money back when it was first received if you thought it was in anyway inferior. Basically, all of us that received that first set had to consider: - Keep it because no other complete set may come out and it is far superior to the individual releases. -...
  13. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I had all the original volume sets and dumped then through the Amazon trade_in program for around $70 worth of credit. It was easy and painless since they cover shipping charges. No reason to hang on to them if you are going to get the complete set. I was lucky enough to get mine from Walmart...
  14. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    How about the person that bought the last four? Yikes. Talk about a potentially good thing gone bad.
  15. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I have new information from an individual that logged a complaint recently against the seller. They responded to my inquiry. See below: "I did try to buy the "Fugitive" complete series from this seller. The ad was a TOTAL sham! The item, according to other places on the internet hasn't been...
  16. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I don't actively purchase from ebay either, but I found i still have an account. So i emailed about 5 of the negative responses from the last few weeks that dealt with either not getting a product or getting the wrong product to see if any were related to "The Fugitive". If I can get one...
  17. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    So here is a question: The set has been recalled and should not have been sold. Does that make all the sets that made it out into consumer hands illegally obtained? Whether bought from Walmart or from somebody that received some "that fell off the truck" as Rod put it, and sold them. Is there...
  18. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    So Gord, you have access to more information then most. Can you let us know what the recall notice was to vendors? What kind of restrictions were put on it? how it was to be enforced, and such information? I ask because obviously Amazon sold either all their stock or plenty of stock. We can't...
  19. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Travis, this all started because I stated it wouldn't surprise me at all if these were actually the same sets that were recalled based on the irregularities of this release. It has never been my intent to explain how the sets got from point A to point B, but just to show that at this point no...
  20. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    No, I never proposed that happened in this case. All I was presenting was that odd things have happened in the past leading to sets being available for lower then expected prices. And that this set does not necessarily follow the logic of a typical release due to the recall and lack of follow on...
  21. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Again...these are recalled sets that in itself is not the norm and so standrad logic need not always apply. Especially, given the odd circumstances that has followed this release. Besides, this is not a discussion that can be decided in this thread without actually hearing from a potential buyer...
  22. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Your assuming that they got the sets directly from CBS/Paramount. You are assuming the person lost money on the deal. When items get dumped they can change hands a few times before ever making it to the consumer, or where ever they are intended. Take the Big Lot's sale once upon a time where I...
  23. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    The keyword there "USUALLY". In the end, unless the buyer or seller lets us know it is all just speculation on our part. I just wasn't ready to dismiss it as beyond possibility.
  24. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Yes, but this isn't just your everyday $225 set being sold a month later for $26. this is a set that has been officially recalled by the manufacturer. Where the manufacturer's has referenced some sort of issue/defect resulting in the recall. It has been offically removed from all vendors. That...
  25. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were the real deal. It is quite possible that someone, not knowing the real value to fans, got a hold of several copies of a recalled item to dump for what they could get for it. To many, an item recalled does not have much value, and if they followed what...
  26. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    If there is something wrong with it why would you think it would have to be unopened to get a replacement? If it is fine but you just changed your mind then I can see keeping it unopened. Except that by the time you find out most places probably wouldn't take it back because it is past the...
  27. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    After my Amazon order was cancelled, I was fortunate enough to get it from Walmat. If it turns out that the recall was due to some defective nature in the disks that would result in some being bad now or going bad prematurely in the future then I would try to get CBS to replace it with the newer...
  28. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    Early on several people spot checked many of the more problematic episodes and stated they were primarily fixed, except for maybe some jukebox type music here and there. So while not a majority of episodes it provided enough evidence for many to assume the new complete set is leaps and bounds...
  29. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    I wouldn't be surprised in the least if one day someone spots it as available on Amazon again with no indication that it was every gone or any explanations as to why it was pulled. It would probably require those on this forum with the expertise to pick apart the releases to determine once and...
  30. smithb

    Fugitive comes to DVD in a 33 disc set on Nov. 1st 2011

    IMO, I think it's more likely an attempt to try to convince people to send their sets back, going along with the notice that followed a bit later by Amazon. And by using the word "potential" they never have to actually justify that it was a disk issue since there is always a potential in the...
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