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First of all, congratulations to Detroit. Now, if you are a happy NBA fan at the moment, then you probably shouldn’t read anymore of this, since it will no doubt piss you off. I am so disgusted with the Lakers at the moment, that I don’t think I’ll be back in this thread for a long, long...

First of all, congratulations to Detroit. Now, if you are a happy NBA fan at the moment, then you probably shouldn’t read anymore of this, since it will no doubt piss you off. I am so disgusted with the Lakers at the moment, that I don’t think I’ll be back in this thread for a long, long...

For Seth and everyone else who thought I was nuts complaining about the Lakers lack of effort, Magic Johnson has now come out and said that their lack of effort was so bad that it was 'disrepectful' of the Detroit Pistons. -George "born & raised in Southern California" Kaplan, a lifelong...

I'm only here because someone sent me a pm. Seth, you took umbrage with what I said and responded with your own diatribe. I stated an opinion. If you disagree with it, fine, but to call me insane is rather insulting. I have seen every Lakers finals game since 1968, with the single exception...

This will be my only post until this series is over one way or another. First of all - Congratulations to Detroit. Now, Holy Half-Assed Apathetic Effort, Batman! I'm disgusted at the Lakers right now. I have no doubt that either San Antonio or Minnesota would have won that game last...

I truly believe that the Lakers are superior to Detroit. However, I also have seen the Lakers put in half-assed efforts too many times. If I knew that the Lakers would play their hardest, I'd be all with you guys picking them in 4 or 5. But given the uncertanties in Laker effort, I wouldn't be...

My thoughts going into the finals. What I've seen so far in the playoffs is a Lakers team whose combination of top tier talent and mediocre effort has been enough to beat the Spurs and T-Wolves, who have had great effort and great (though less than the Lakers) talent. Now we've got...

Re: officiating That has to be one of the worst jobs of officiating I've ever seen. Still, I'll never believe such bad officiating (no matter which way it goes) is done on purpose, and while it'll look like it's going against one team or the other in the short run (i.e., a single game), in...

I completely disagree. Tonight we saw what happens when they decide not to put in the effort for long stretches of a game. This is unacceptable. I realize no player can sprint down the court full speed for a full 48 minutes. But what passed as effort tonight was just pathetic. :thumbsdown:

Sorry, but I need to vent again. I'm sitting here listening to the local sports radio, and these two brothers who run a local show on Saturday. These guys actually used to be pretty good, but they've become more and more homerish and now are just ridiculous. Now they want a national call...

Including the Spurs who only have 1.6. :) :) :) And that too is a JOKE in case any Spurs fans are listening.

You can count 88 all you want. Hell I'll give you 88, but I'll take 89. And while I'm at it, I might as well take 91, 83, 84, 73, 59, 62, 63, 65, 66, 68, 69 and 70. So, even taking away 88, the Lakers go from 14 championships to 26. OK. :) Hey bad calls go both ways, and I could complain...

Well I'm not sure I follow that exactly, but I think I'm safe in assuming you're talking about me. So, I will just elaborate briefly. Yes, I've said that if the Lakers lose it'll be due to lack of effort, not inferior talent. But, I'll rephrase it slightly. If I watch the Lakers put in the...

Seth, Agree with you about the conspiracy thing. That's NOT the reason that Yankees are always in it, or the Boston Celtics won 8 championships in a row, etc., etc. If the conspiracy is to have a Lakers/Knicks final every year to maximize ratings, then damn these conspirators are damned...

Minnesota does have a chance. They can hope that the Lakers don't show up effortwise. Because when they do (like they mostly did for the last 4 games against San Antonio, watch out. Nobody, and that includes Indiana, is going to beat the Lakers in a seven game series if the Lakers put in the effort.

I think it was the same team Popovich played for. :) I had to come in with another "hardcore spurs fanatic" story. There's a web forum where they congregate, and they are suddenly calling Peter Vecsey a great writer because he wrote a really stupid article questioning the .4 shot...

I have a tendency to get too emotionally wrapped up in these games, both good and bad, which is why I tend not to post except either before things begin, or after they're over. So after a few thoughts about Lakers/Spurs, I'll probably not say much until much later. Obviously I'm happy the...

I do have to add one thing. Spurs fans here are now arguing that it doesn't matter how much time was left on the clock after Duncan's shot, since the clock doesn't stop until the Lakers call time out. However, that isn't true. http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_5....av=ArticleList The...

I had decided not to say anything at least until the Lakers/Spurs series was over. But I do have to talk about, not the game per se, but Spurs reaction. It's so typical. The Spurs are now complaining that the clock started late on the inbound. Please :rolleyes Did the clock start the...

Rivalries are funny things, and often not reciprocated. I remember the 80s and LA vs. Boston was a true rivalry. But while San Antonio views LA as their #1 rival (I know, I live here), LA has recently viewed Sacramento more as their #1 rival. That's not to say that LA doesn't view San Antonio as...

Theorem: Proof: Post #881 QED :)

For those unclear on the concept, there have been 57 NBA seasons prior to the current one. For 56 of those 57 seasons, a full season (however many games that consisted of at the time) was played. One time out of 57, a strike shortened season resulted in only 60% of the scheduled games being...

Seth, You want me to backup my opinions (which are just opinions, and can't be proven one way or another) with facts. You certainly provide a lot of statistical facts, but in the end, it's still just your opinion about the proper way to interpret them. If you want statistics, I have to...

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm simply stating my opinion.

If Albert Einstein had been motivated to, and had worked hard, he could have been the greatest biologist of his time. The Los Angeles Lakers are to basketball what Albert Einstein was to biology. :frowning: :thumbsdown:

But Gabe, my point is, if a team can be hot, and have great momentum, and then suddenly find themselves cold with no momentum, then certainly they can go suddenly back to hot with great momentum. The sportscasters seem to always talk about a single play changing the momentum. But 2 minutes...

You know, Seth, you seem to be like the day trader of NBA games. You put way too much faith into the latest happenings. The truth of the matter is, no two week stretch in the NBA season is going to be terribly predictive of the following two week stretch. I mean, if the Lakers are great for...

At least 34 years for me (I don't remember being a fan before 1970, but it's possible), and there were some painful ones throughout the years, but they've faded over time. But living in San Antonio, recent ones here just kill me.

Last year. The only thing that sucks worse than not winning the championship, is having the Spurs win instead. :thumbsdown:

Let me try. Those Spurs are looking awfully good right now. OK. Let's see if it works. :)