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  1. cafink

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Ah, yes. I see we've moved on from the discussion of the movie's color timing to the discussion about the discussion of the movie's color timing. Seems like a lateral move to me. :)
  2. cafink

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Thank you for clarifying. I don't know what Mark is doing on other sites, but his posts here on the HTF have seemed reasonable to me, and very detailed. They're obviously not in line with most others' evaluation of the disc, but that's why I visit the HTF: to get a variety of opinions. For...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    My interpretation was: "I don't understand why some people are still talking about this. I don't see anything wrong with the disc." Based on Merrick's previous posts on the subject, and now on his subsequent response to my comment, I believe I was correct in that interpretation. I'm sure...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    What exatly is it that you don't understand? That the screenshots are accurate, in that the Extended Edition Blu-ray contains significant amounts of blue/green in areas that seem like they should be white, and were on previous releases? That a number of factors, both environmental and...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    How, specifically, would your ideal cut differ from the existing theatrical and extended versions?
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    A Kiss Kiss Bang Bang quote is always called for. I also like the "Look up 'idiot' in the dictionary" bit.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    It's like they think you can simply rip data from a Blu-ray disc onto a computer or something!
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Wow, what an incredibly detailed, thorough review. Thanks for your hard work in putting it together.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Yes, exactly! The screenshots probably will look different, because they're being viewed in entirely different viewing conditions. Most readers are probably looking at them on an uncalibrated computer monitor in a bright room. Many of the screenshots are also presented agains a white...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    No, not necessarily. The screenshots are an accurate representation of the data on the disc. There are a number of additional factors that affect how one perceives the image upon normal playback, some of them technical (monitor calibration, playback hardware, etc.), some of them environmental...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Unfortunately, it's been very thoroughly confirmed that the screencaps accurately represent the actual Blu-ray. The green tint probably won't appear as extreme under normal viewing conditions, but it's definitely present on the disc.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    The special features are all on standard DVDs in the Extended Edition Blu-ray set, too. I haven't compared them directly to confirm, but I'm pretty sure the Lord of the Rings Blu-rays—both the theatrical versions and extended editions—use the exact same special features discs from the original...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    The theatrical version is a two-disc set. The special features, including the music video, are on disc 2, which is a regular DVD, not a Blu-ray disc. So the video is in standard definition.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    …verboten when it comes to Star Wars. Are you new to the Internet or something?
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    I didn't buy Star Wars on DVD until the original version was released, and plan to do the same on Blu-ray.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    For the kind of color issues we're seeing on this new Fellowship Blu-ray, I don't put much stock in claims about how the disc compares to the original theatrical presentation, or even to more recent screenings. As others have already mentioned, a lot of different elements contribute to the way...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    There are plenty of other kinds of calls made to and from cell phones, and some of them are, yes, emergencies.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    No. At least some of the screen captures being debated were taken from a retail disc, and they display the same bluish-green tint as all the other captures.
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Well, the extended Blu-rays don't include the theatrical cuts of the films, which are the ones that won all those awards and earned all those great reviews. But if that's not important to you, the only other consideration is the supplements. None of the special features from the theatrical...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Because they are great movies, modern classics that won 17 academy awards between them and garnered almost universal critical acclaim?
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Honestly, I thought Fellowship and Return of the King were better in their theatrical versions. Some of the added scenes were interesting (my favorite is the "which way is Mordor?" bit from Fellowship), but the theatrical versions were tighter and better-paced, in my opinion. Still, I agree...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    While I'm inclined to agree with those who say that something funny is going on with the color on the new Extended Edition Blu-ray, I have to agree with Robert on this point. The theatrical Blu-rays had plenty of picture quality issues, too--edge enhancement, DNR, and the like. What's special...
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    John, do you actually have the disc in hand, or are those screenshots coming from a different source?
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    Yeah, I couldn't think of very many cases where a problem discovered via screenshots turned out to be "some anomaly in the grabs themselves." You've mentioned The Ten Commandments, and I remember there were some issues with the color on DVD Beaver's Contact screenshots, but are there any others?
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    A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition -- in Blu-ray

    So, for the new Blu-ray, Warner went back to the DI for that 70-80% of the film? What about the rest of it? How was it transferred to Blu-ray? I know relatively little about how movies are transferred, and am trying to get a clear picture of what it entails in this case.
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