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  1. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I don't think the way a film looks on DVD can be considered "garbage". What are we supposed to talk about, the lovely artwork on the cover?
  2. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    You're the one who wrote:
  3. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    There is no sniping and bickering, just a healthy exchange of contradictory opinions. This thread must have been very informative for people like you who were not aware of the colour issues of this latest release and, for that reason, I am glad to say it has more than fulfilled its...
  4. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    "We thank you for the kind words, sir."
  5. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    Your position is that this DVD has a good transfer and few artefacts despite its fuzziness and low bitrate and that is reason enough to buy it. You have no opinion at all on the colour values because you never thought about this subject before it was brought up by people like me who are...
  6. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I ventured an opinion on Cinderella because Chuck apparently hadn't noticed that the problem wasn't the whites of the eyes of the stepmother being blue but the eyes themselves being green on that DVD, which I think the screen capture I posted pretty well establishes. But, you're not attacking...
  7. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    Chuck, I agree with you on most things but I also highly approve of the latest Cinderella DVD transfer. For one thing, in that shot, the colour of the eyes suggests to me that the stepmother is green with envy, and lying in wait in the shadows, and the colour of that chair is "vieux rose" ("old...
  8. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I think Mary Blair will be turning in her grave when she hears what was done to her colour concepts in the 2007 DVD Edition! Mary Blair's colour concept for the Indian Encampment: The Men are red. Mary Blair's Mermaid Lagoon: Peter Pan is dresed in green. Lots of blue...
  9. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    And this is what it should look like: (Unless the indians have struck oil, the trail shouldn't stick out like a glow-in-the-dark 3-D pipeline. And smoke is blue-grey, not red.)
  10. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I'm thinking maybe the PE came with a pair of blue-green viewing glasses in order to restore the missing colours. Maybe mine fell off or something... I know...
  11. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    In the PE, Peter looks a little wilted (jaundiced?) in his final confrontation with Hook: I would call that particular shade of yellow "goldenrod" if the word "pukish" didn't also come to mind. :) Reproduction (sericel) of original production cel: From...
  12. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    Bickering would be very bad form, Mr. Smee.:)
  13. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    You're not very good at naming colours, are you, Patrick? The important thing about the red in the Chief's face is that it is red and not brown and that it is closest to the animation cel I posted. And you complain about a brownish-green sky when the 2007 sky is all brown? You're getting desperate!
  14. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    DTS IMages, by definition, only work in the digital domain. They can do anything they please with the colours by just pushing the right, shiny buttons. They have probably never seen a piece of celluloid, let alone a cel. 2002 SE Edition 2007 PE Edition a.k.a. The Beige Edition
  15. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I'm sorry but when you mentioned the "animation team" I naturally assumed you were going over to DaVID's position that this decision was taken when the film came out in theatres, 55 years ago. I'm sure DTS Images wouldn't have the gumption, let alone the imagination, to think up this desacration...
  16. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    You guys are in a complete state of denial and I respect that. You must feel like medical students who have just given a clean bill of health to a patient but have failed to notice the man has turned a perfectly lovely shade of yellow... I' m sorry but your hypothesis doesn't make sense. The...
  17. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    My point is that there was NO care to maintain faithfulness. It's quite easy to see with your own eyes, unless you can't see the forest for the trees. This $ 1,750 original, 55-year old cel still maintains its original, brilliant colours and this is what was intended as a colour scheme for this...
  18. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    Screen cap from Platinum Edition: Original production hand-painted cel (on sale here: http://www.animationartgallery.com/WDCK280.html): Need I say more? (Except to mention how the Chief's coat has gone from jade to pale banana?)
  19. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    These screen caps don't mean anything if you don't put them side by side with the previous version for comparison purposes. Sure, the Chief has three shades of red and Peter has four shades of green but they're all several shades yellower than the original colours. Besides, Peter's garb is at...
  20. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I'm afraid I must question that. It is becoming more and more evident to me that all the colours of the original Technicolor print have been digitally shifted to the yellow end of the spectrum and that this was done as a radical gesture to make the film look "modern", "contemporary" and...
  21. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    PE is Platinum Edition - the one that just came out. SE is Special Edition (2002) and LE usually refers to the 1999 Limited Issue.
  22. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    Another digital-realm manipulation of the original picture I noticed... In the flying off to Neverland scene, just after the camera starts panning up from Peter Pan to the London streets below, on to the Thames River and the Channel and to Neverland in the sky, there always used to be a...
  23. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    Well, to be fair, the skin tones in the "Your Mother and Mine" scene have been corrected to look less chalky. But they should have changed the lyrics of "What Makes the Red Man Red?" to "What Makes the Red Man Pink?" :) With the defoliation evident in the jungle scenes, maybe they should...
  24. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I'm sure all those precautions were taken when the chemical restoration of the film was made. The present transfer was colour-corrected entirely in the digital domain and bears no relation whatsoever to what a fine-quality Technicolor print is supposed to look like. The bias of the latest...
  25. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    The Technicolor process reproduces all colours of the spectrum with a negative that incorporates cyan, magenta and yellow elements, cyan for red, magenta for green, and yellow for blue in the positive. Disney's digital technicians have found a way to increase the yellow and reduce the blue and...
  26. baracine

    Official HTF "Peter Pan - Platinum Edition" review?

    I'm a new member here and am not yet allowed to post URLs but I posted this about the official state of the debate on another forum (dvdtalk.com - DVD Talk):
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