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DF/Sinofsky or not I don't buy that for an instant as a compelling reason for not increasing it.

Um, that makes no sense at all. How did you come to that conclusion?

Yes, but iTunes Match does not launch till end of month. Let's make an iOS 5 specific thread...

It's coming, Find my Friends is live: http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/12/find-my-friends-app-goes-live-ahead-of-ios-5-release/ And iCloud is outta beta: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/12/icloud-com-website-updated-no-longer-in-beta/

More RAM is absolutely critical for having more pages loaded in safari's tabs (how many times have you been on between pages just to have them refresh at the worst possible time because RAM was full, I have, tons) and for games like Infinity Blade. At this point it's not the CPU or GPU that's...

TIMN is reporting that the 4s will only have 512mb of RAM, which is a bad move. On the other hand it removes ALL argument for SIRI being iPhone 4s only and not on iPad

Macworld makes the case for not waiting: http://www.macworld.com/article/162697/2011/10/iphone_4s_upgrade_or_wait_.html#lsrc.twt_lexfri

At&t tells me I'm eligible to upgrade now. Gazelle is offering $249 for a pristine iPhone 4. I think i might do it, going back and forth... I'll just eat the ETF or pay to keep this phone until contract end giving it to my nephew. It's going to be 12 months minimum till the 5, probably closer to...

Other stuff: $99 Apple care+ for klutzes who break glass (like me): http://store.apple.com/us/product/S4575#overview If you are disappointed you are crazy: http://www.splatf.com/2011/10/iphone-4s/ Whut happened to facebook? http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/04/facebook-apple-event/ Hands on...

This is one of the watch faces for the new #iPod #nano ANIMAL! AN I MAL!!!

Nobody has mentioned yet how close the voice is to Xtranormal.com - this will not end well =) Keynote posted: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piuhbvdlbkvoih10/event/index.html Tons of new videos and pages up: http://www.apple.com/iphone/ http://www.apple.com/ios/...

I'm back to waiting. I forgot you can't do Voice and Data at the same time on Verizon without LTE, even with the antenna improvements here. Dealbreaker.

One thing nobody mentioned yet: Ipod classic still lives! Im thinking if its going to be 18 months till iphone 5 i might as well go back to verizon at the start of 4s. Will have to run the ETF and Gazelle numbers tonight. Siri and the camera would be a bonus, not a considered factor for me.

Siri was on iphone for months dont forget, its go e today. The tradeoff is that its now baked into the OS. Can anyone confirm is it 4s exclusive?

Thanks for sticking with us folks, am heading back to the ranch, will see the comments and check in later.

This might be the first keynote I give so little a damn about that I don't bother to download the video...

iPhone 3gs lives on (DUHHHHH!) Free on contract tho. iPhone 4 16gb $99 iPhone 4s 16 $199 32 $299 64 $399 Sprint is now go Preorders on the 7th, ships the 14th

Same price as iPhone 4, no changes.

TIMN:

More popular better.

Impressive but still, no iPhone 4s for me. See you next Fall when these jerks finally support LTE.

Black helicopter ninjas have just killed all 3 good liveblogs again.

Demoing Siri Assistant now, here comes the unicorn dust!

Apple stock is down 4% and falling BTW.

I'm hard to impress and I gotta say this seems like a totally sweet update to the camera subsystem. 1080p video and image stabilization. If only we could get 1080p from the Apple Store, ya think?

8 megapickle camera sensor confirmed

World phone (both CDMA and GSM in one body)

HSPDA+ confirmed. Good for AT&T, bad for Verizon.

iPhone 4s is official, looks just like iPhone 4 but don't be deceived, dual core A5 inside.

Discussing how iTunes Match works