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  1. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Don't worry I'm done with this thread now that the mystery is solved thanks to Mr.Belston's interview. I spent way to much time on this as it is out of love for the film but leave knowing at least Fox was aware they sold us an inferior product even if we didn't get a hard copy replacement. Maybe...
  2. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Wow...I'll give you this, you never give up even when the facts come from Mr.Belston's own mouth. So you knew this for years but only mention it now after defending it for months as the way it looked on release. Sad really.
  3. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Time for you to bone up on color grading in the all digital realm. Why you can even color grade only a portion of an individual shot! The days of color grading in chemical baths are long gone. And you of all people should know not all technicolor prints are created equal. Anyway end of...
  4. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Thank you for your knowledgeable addition to this discussion. It just amazes me that so many people are willing to defend this poor color-timing as the original intent of the filmmakers. As a person old enough to have seen this film projected from an actual print on the big screen I refuse to...
  5. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Flipping channels tonight and came across The King And I being shown in HD on HBO using the same horrid blue tinged mess that was released on Blu-ray. Still pisses me off after all this time. I need to let it go. But I love this film and couldn't stand to continue to watch it on HBO as they...
  6. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    If you've read through these posts you'll see I've beat this horse to death. All I will say at this time is the image below was used by Cineric when they did the original restoration work on the 65mm negative. I would assume this demonstrates the colors as they presented them to Fox after their...
  7. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    It looks worse than the Blu-ray. It looks sick.:eek:
  8. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I haven't heard a thing. I guess the few people who care are on this thread and none of them made it and the rest of the folks aren't interested.
  9. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Me too as I've been arguing with haineshisway about this for months. He was going to review an old technicolor print to determine proper color balance but it never happened. Wish I could see this new print as the Blu-ray really annoys me.
  10. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Thanks Mr. Harris for adding some insight into this very problematic transfer which has raised much controversy due to the state of the current blu-ray transfer of this beloved film. I feel that there are, of course, multiple issues related to the negative causing problems with the image we now...
  11. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Blue all over their faces, Kerr's lovely red hair highlights, the green on the other woman's dress, all the gold being brought down, just a subtle cold pall over the whole scene.
  12. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Well, you have certainly convinced me that you prefer what many of us here consider to be an unattractive and poorly mastered (color wise) version of this film. As consumers we have a right to expect the best possible work to be delivered in the products we purchase with our hard earned money. I...
  13. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    If one can't see the difference between the left and right side, there are apps to calibrate computer monitors. The fact that the blue tint is so perfectly eliminated by a fairly simple color correct autocorrect algorithm leaving the corrected picture perfect (to our eyes) and the fact that this...
  14. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Well, this is the end of my presentation regarding this film and I stand on my opinion, which of course is what we are all doing. Having viewed this blu-ray twice now I think they probably did a good job transferring the film whether it was done with Fotokem or not is unknowable to me as there...
  15. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    No, because what is out the window isn't really sky its a lit set backdrop meant to look pretty, sunset. The unwanted blue tint is covering it up. Look how the same tint changes the hue of the kings shirt from a silk silver grey to blue. And which side if the kings head is more natural and...
  16. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Lets try the simple autocorrect on the screenshot Konstantinos put up. BEFORE AFTER I think this proves my point again. Skintones, the dress and the door all look natural but...
  17. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I'm not the first to do this but at this point I think it's worth brining up again. I'm familiar with the "blue" cast that some old 20th Century Fox movies have and I'm certainly OK with that. It was part of their style. And I think Bruce is right about the blu-ray being correct in general to...
  18. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Bruce, thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I respect you opinion and knowledge on the subject of Fox film transfers. As I stated before, I found the current transfer to be very consistent overall and enjoyable. And I am familiar with the Mr. Shamroy's use of colored lighting from...
  19. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Haineshisway, I guess you also feel the image presented is not to contrasty over what you would experience seeing this film on the screen? So just to get you straight, do you believe this is the best that the Fox technologists could do in transferring The King And I to Blu-ray and does justice...
  20. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I will admit some of the film looks good, the added definition is a plus and I give whoever is to blame for this transfer points for it being very consistent through out but overall I don't feel it looks much like it did on release. Being a senior, and I know some people feel color memory is...
  21. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I don't think there is a controversy outside this forum over that rotten transfer and I believe you are right about the films profitability. We all know people that have their TVs color misadjusted toward the unwatchable and think its OK, doesn't bother them. "Hey Lois this is a new transfer...
  22. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    It should be on the discount table at the dollar store to be unloaded before a corrected blu-ray is released. But it's obvious what Fox Home Video thinks about their classics and the customers that buy them.
  23. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Fox's total disregard in this matter still shocks me. Only matched by Disney Home Video's ditching of blu-ray 3D disc north America. Corporations no longer consider customer service a profitable endeavor.
  24. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Again in regard to this crappy transfer it amazes me how the corporate world deals with our complaints by completely ignoring them. Like Disney and it's cancelation of blu-ray 3D releases in Region 1 the corporate response is complete silence to our complaints and questions which is the...
  25. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    How sad. So much for quality control and customer satisfaction. I'll hang on to my DVD.
  26. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I agree with Will that the cuts done in the General Release version of South Pacific were well done and don't hurt the film that much as we've seen in other films. What does amaze me about that cut is how much they cut of the Boar's Tooth Ceremony which is elaborate and to me a highlight of the...
  27. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    Great comparison video Chuck! Someone should show this to Fox executives as there definitely needs to be a shake up in their blu-ray quality control section. Even though it could use some tuning I would buy a blu-ray of the 2006 HD transfer but have no intention of paying for the murky 2014...
  28. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I'll second that! I've always liked Can-Can for all it's odd qualities. It all doesn't work but some of it works very well for me. Blu-ray please.....
  29. SFMike

    The King and I (Blu-ray) Single Available for Preorder

    I agree! But I have to admit I HATE the subpar blu-ray transfers of The King And I and Carousel churned out by Fox.
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