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Seth, I don't think you're arguing the point I'm arguing. Granted, you make a good argument--but all Jefferson said was that it was somehow amazing to believe a "hollywood actor" would know this stuff. That's it. He wasn't talking about whether or not they were abusing their celebrity to put...

It's not like they're sequestered in a bubble or anything, or that their major brain functions are robbed from them the instant they collect their SAG card. He probably knew the same way a LOT of people knew--they took the time to read the newswires and research it. It's not like that...

Well, knowing Oscar, they'll nominate "I'm so Ronery" instead and have someone like Jack Black sing it. They gypped South Park: Instead of nominating "Uncle Fucka" as they should have, they nominated "Blame Canada" and had Robin Williams sing it. And then they gave the statue to some...

oh, okay, where were all you people back when I was being roasted over a spit for saying similar things?

Actually, no, they've gone on record several times as far as their intention goes. the actors in this movie aren't there as a sort of symbol of how "liberals" were portrayed in 80's movies. They're there because, as they've said pretty explicitly--they HATE those actors for speaking up. That's...

My bad. Sorry man.

I'm not dismissing the work because it hits too close to home. that's a weird little strawman that I dont' think you can pull out of my complaints. I'm dismissing their failures in this movie because they didn't make me laugh. There are parts of the movie that are very funny, as I've already...

I don't think so. read some recent interviews with these guys. Like i've said, they've always presumed to stand on a pedestal of intellectual superiority in their comedy--it's what gives a lot of the funny it's bite. And most of the time, I appreciate it. It's just this time the comedy doesn't...

well, if the movie is failing to make you laugh, you gotta move onto the other aspects, yunno? I'm not so sure the fact Puppets are in it automatically means it shouldn't be analyzed as much as we analyze any other movie, animated, SFX-fest or otherwise.

Which is why I said most of the complaints in this movie would probably disappear if they'd simply thrown a shot of Team America blowing THEMSELVES up too. It's just disappointing that it looks more like they're hiding behind disinterest and condescension as excuses for taking themselves...

I don't think it's that so much that people are frowning on (although I bet there are some that are frowning on that aspect) but It's that Matt and Trey are essentially using a movie and their standing as entertainers as leverage to speak out about....about people who use their standing as...

Hey, I'm not trying to make people think what I think or anything, man. That's just how I saw it. I'm glad you liked it for what it was. I didn't. I figured I should simply tell you WHY I didn't, that's all. But if you don't see the similarities between Timmy and Matt Damon (both are...

Matt does.

..who needs to learn what "Homage" means?

Hey, I'm glad people are enjoying it. It's just--there's too many old, already better told jokes in this thing. Songs repeated from the show, themes repeated from the show, frigging CHARACTERS repeated from the show (Matt Damon = Timmy, Jong Il = Shitty Wall, etc. etc.) It just didn't rub me...

I'll be the dissenting: I'm a huge South Park fan, and I've loved damn near everything Trey and Matt have done. I think this last season of South Park was maybe one of the best seasons of any series EVER, so it's not like I'm sketchy on these guys' talent. But I think maybe my...