Unfortunately, we don't have a time machine to be able to go back to 1956 and view The King and I at a first run theater. But there are movie reviews from that time which can be found in various newspapers available online (some are free). I found a New York Times review By Bosley Crowther...
We're still comparing The King and I BD with previous home video transfers.
I'm still curious though... If he's had a chance to view the 16mm IB Tech print, I'm hoping for some observations from Mr. Kimmel.
I had no idea that The King and I had so many long opticals in it, and that this dupe footage is the reason for the "The really unquestionably ugly looking shot of Madame Thiang in Anna's room a little later in the film" and, presumably, many other instances where the dupe footage occurs.
In...
How I wish that we all had access to (and the knowledge to interpret) that information.
Anyway, I own and have watched the following Blu-ray films in which Leon Shamroy was the director of color photography:
1968 Planet of the Apes
1965 The Agony and the Ecstasy
1963 The Cardinal
1963...
Absolutely. it's not like we're debating politics or religion here. Somewhere, there must be solid evidence of some kind that will put this issue to bed once and for all. And I for one am willing to wait as long as it takes to find out.
Just because we all can't agree which color timing is...
Agreed. But please don't lock the thread until we hear back from Bruce after he's had a chance to view the old 16mm IB technicolor print.
Granted, that won't be concrete proof either way, but my curiosity has been piqued.
If I had that print, and a means to project it, I'd love to do an...
I believe what we'd need is access to an approved answer print or documents which state what the final print should look like. And that's if such things still exist.
Since no one has produced such evidence thus far, we're left to our memories and personal preferences.
I wish I owned a copy of the book. Fascinating.
(P.S., Pages 127 - 130 were not available for preview).
Looking forward to your observations after viewing the 16mm IB tech print.
Just wondering about Mr. Shamroy's use of filtration and colored lighting effects. So I did a search and I stumbled upon some excerpts from a book Chromatic Cinema: A History of Screen Color By Richard Misek.:
Make of this what you will.
Well, it seems that we have 2 HD transfers to choose from. Both have a completely different color timing. I have watched them both. I still do not know for certain which transfer is true to the original intent. In matters such as this, I usually defer to a world renowned film restoration expert...
Never had the pleasure of seeing The King and I on the big screen. My only experience has been home video.
I don't know if a (presumably) un-faded IB 16mm print would be a useful indicator of what the proper color timing of the film should be, but since I can't be there to watch it with you...
I've been reading about this BD transfer with great interest since its release.
Each camp has convincing arguments about what this film should actually look like. It's been a fascinating and educational read. Although I still have no idea which side of the argument is correct, at least...