Dave, the truth is actually somewhere between those two extremes (the Ring "left Gollum deliberately" vs. the Ring "was taken from Gollum by Bilbo"). The book implies (and Jackson makes it even more plain) that the Ring slipped off Gollum's finger at one point. As it betrayed Isildur by...
Tom, that's not quite accurate -- Frodo doesn't have the chance to say ANYthing after Grima cuts Saruman's throat. The relevant passage: "...Suddenly Wormtongue rose up, drawing a hidden knife, and then with with a snarl like a dog he sprang on Saruman's back, jerked his head back, cut his...
I've been rather amused at some of the comments here recently. I tend to agree with everybody else, though. I don't care for Liv's acting and I think she turns in the weakest performance in all three films (except her scene with Elrond in TTT, which I find to be incredibly moving, mostly because...
Don't believe it. I'm friends with a couple of the TORN staffers and there was an uproar yesterday after they posted it (yes, they were in fact in on the jokes, both of them). After the fallout (both from me and from other people who thought the "Hobbit" one was an extremely bad idea), my guess...
I saw FOTR and TTT ten times apiece in theaters. Need to step up my moviegoing pretty seriously for ROTK -- I've only seen that one five times so far. :) Anybody want to make some bets on how much longer it's going to run now that it's been rereleased into, what, 2000 theaters? cheers, Phil
Dustin inquired:
Just throwing in a reply here because I'd like to know too and I agree with Dustin that the portraits shown during the credits are very unlike Alan's usual work. Can somebody who's got confirmation of this please post it? cheers, Phil
The story about having the movie "blanked out" except for the lips of the actor/actress is absolutely horrifying. As a voiceover actor that positively makes me want to scream. Properly done ADR absolutely MUST give the actor/actress free rein and show them the action onscreen so they know to...
Molly has written some great stuff. If you're not familiar with her Condensed LOTR Parodies, they are worth reading. ROTK, Condensed Parody Version: http://www.livejournal.com/users/mol...aith/5635.html TTT, Condensed Parody Version: http://www.livejournal.com/users/mol...aith/1826.html...
Dude! I need to catch up with you. I am way behind on my viewings (saw FOTR ten times and TTT nine times in the theaters, and I think ROTK at least deserves the honor of the same number of viewings). I am SO with you on noisy audience members. I'd like to bring a small tranquilizer gun with...
Dome inquired:
I believe it is "I can't carry it [the Ring] for you...but I can carry you!" Need to go watch it again. I'm only up to five viewings. cheers, Phil
Haggai remarked:
You're correct that the music was Viggo's, but not about the title. "'Tis the Lay of Lúthien", not the "Lady" of Lúthien. Lúthien Tinúviel was her name. cheers, Phil
Norm inquired:
His scenes (unless you count that two-second shot of him and Grima looking rather disturbed by the mess they've gotten themselves into) were removed from the theatrical cut of the film. Jackson has confirmed that they will be restored for the Extended Edition. cheers, Phil
Re: the Eagles and their status as a Deus Ex Machina: A few friends have asked me the same question, i.e., "why didn't they just summon a couple of Eagles and ride to Mount Doom and drop the Ring in?" My answer has always begun with the same phrase: "The Eagles are not Middle-earth's Taxi...
Haggai remarked:
That's probably where I saw it then. I was as spoiler-free before the movie came out as I could manage, but since then I have snatched up any and every piece of information I could get my hands on. Kinda lost track of what I've seen where. :) cheers, Phil
I don't know about that. Mostly the people in my Trilogy Tuesday audience were quiet, but there were a couple of irritating people. One girl who thought (incorrectly) that she was funny absolutely ruined the March of the Ents (one of my favorite parts of the film) in TTT by shouting out "Run...
Fred Mitchell inquired:
Unsure whether Holadem's edit to add additional info came before or after this question, but just in case -- Fred, Holadem says he got that info from the Encyclopedia of Arda (although he didn't provide a link). The Encyclopedia can be found at...
Matt Stone, re: the missing subtitles in the "I give hope to Men" scene:
I don't think it's a framing issue for two reasons: 1. The theater where that subtitle was "missing" always has excellent sound and picture. That's why I frequent the place. If part of it was projected off the...
Somebody mentioned a while back in this thread something about subtitles disappearing in one scene. I got to see that for myself in this evening's viewing (my fourth). During the scene where Elrond tells Aragorn, "I give hope to Men", and Aragorn responds, "I keep none for myself", neither of...
Phil, I wonder if Jackson left it out intentionally, so as to not cause potential confusion in the film as to who (as between Merry and Eowyn) truly dealt the Witch-King's death blow. Oh, I'm sure that's what the reason is. To tell it properly would have meant another five or six minutes of...
Bryan, thanks, but I know that quite well, having read the books approximately seventy billion times. :) My point was more that in the FILMS there's no real mention of the swords being anything more than decent sturdy blades, and that it'd be nice to see some of that show up in the EE for ROTK...
A couple of folk have mentioned the swords that Strider gives to the four hobbits at Weathertop, but I don't see how Merry and Pippin were able to keep those swords after being captured by the Uruk-Hai. If they lost the daggers that Galadriel gave them, they would have surely lost the swords...
Close. Tom took a pile of gold and treasures from the cave, while the hobbits (who had been through the wringer) were mostly out cold. When they had recovered, he chose a brooch for himself, for Goldberry to wear, and then gave the daggers to the hobbits. cheers, Phil
......I wondered how long it would be before somebody said that. :) Sounds awfully like "blade" to me on my first four viewings. How about we find something else to argue about, eh? :) Here's an idea. Was there anything about the film that you folk disliked the first time around that you...
Haggai remarked:
Haggai, it may be further than you want to travel, but the debut performances for Howard conducting LOTR music in the USA will be here in Atlanta on June 4th and 5th. See http://www.atlantasymphony.org/calen...info/rings.htm for the full info. Yes, I have my tickets already...