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No... unfortunately there are times when you just can't dispute taste. :) This is all pretty much a moot point now anyway, so we're just arguing in circles. I expect that Jack will put the new format into place once the new season starts, and everyone can be happy. Moe.

I think we should wait for the individual Enterprise Episode "Appreciation" threads start when Season 4 beings, and the new episodes are airing. Moe.

Check out the STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE 5/26/'04 "Zero Hour" Thread. Thead-Crapping until the 40th post, when the show actually aired. And it just went on from there... Moe.

If that were the case, then there would be no problem. Unfortunately, it's not just "why's" or "home come's" that we're talking about. Take a look at any of the recent Enterprise threads, and you'll see that the conversation isn't nearly as cut-and-dry as "how come you liked it?" or "home...

Thinking about it this morning, it occurred to me that the Enterprise threads remind me more of discussions relating to religion & politics than discussions about a television show. (NOTE: I'm just drawing a parallel here... I'm not turning this into a religious/political discussion) I...

Oh, don't misunderstand me - I see plenty of problems with Enterprise, but they're not the kind that would make this particular viewer forsake the show. Yes, there are characters on the show who are, as we enter season #4, still cardboard cutouts. Hoshi... Merriweather... But arguably, I feel...

Really? Name a single alien species that appeared on any of the 14 Firefly episodes... Reavers don't count. There are no weapons on Serenity, unless you count the artillery carried by the crew. Enterprise has phasers, torpedo's, etc. So basically when the Firefly came up against a threat...

You know, I recently completed a marathon run of all four seasons of Farscape (I watched every episode, from Season 1 Episode 1 to the final Season 4 cliffhanger) and Firefly, and I'll agree that they are FANTASTIC SciFi. I can't wait for the Farscape Mini series, and the Firefly motion...

Sneaky... Moe.

There are lots of other threads in this forum for other TV shows that include constructive discussion, and that don't devolve anywhere near the levels that I've seen in Enterprise related threads. Smallville, Sopranos, Simpsons, Southpark, Six Feet Under, etc. (yes... odd that they all star with...

But it's NOT a debate! At least, it's not SUPPOSED to be a debate. It's SUPPOSED to be a discussion. This (what we're discussing now) is a debate (and a civilized and respectful one at that... thanks to everyone for keeping it that way). It's when an Enterprise thread turns into a debate...

The thing is that posting in an Enterprise related thread is like trying to walk through a crowded dog park and not stepping in a big pile off doodie. You try really carefully to avoid getting messy, but there's so much of it lying around that eventually you're gonna step in it. Moe.

That's just it Mikel... some of us feel that Enterprise is no worse than some of the previous incarnations of the franchise. Frankly, I watch some TOS, TNG, or DS9 episodes today and cringe at them. Yes, some have held up, some some are just, in my opinion, terrible. You can compare things...

Jason, I think it's possible to have a discussion without contantly referring to the negative characteristics of the show (or it's writers/producers/fans), and discussing other aspects... like the plot, story, and characters. Contributing to a discussion doesn't mean that the discussion...

I think he's referring to the threads, not the show itself. People making negative posts in the threads make it uncomfortable for others to discuss the show. Hence, the negative discussion is driving people out of the threads, not making them "tune out in droves". Moe.

Sorry Rex, but I don't think it's that terrible an idea, and I frankly don't think it's unoriginal or revisionist. In fact, I think that, handled correctly, this direction may be as compelling and interesting as many of the courtroom dramas our there. Maybe this plot could evolve into a mix of...

Written & directed properly, it could lead to some very intriguing stories. You never know. There's no point in prejudging until we see how & where they plan on going with this. I'm also in the "I enjoy Enterprise" camp, so I don't share the negative perspective that a lot of the detractors...

Just remember that a Vulcan Civil war might not involve phasers and bloody killing. The Vulcans are already a civilized & restrained society (even considering all the machinations & scheming that they seemingly do in the background). Their "Civil War" might take place wholly in conference halls...